Below is the ad from Hays Aust looking for Planning Manager again today.
I honestly hope that, with your vast experience managing planners and reputation in Sydney as well as PM experience somewhere else, you could secure this job and keep contributing to the forum (yes, decent command of English as you said, is not important) in the future.
Or, if you have submitted your details to them earlier, then I believe they have overlooked you capabilities.
Very good luck to you and frank comments from me.
regards
Nik Mazli
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"Degree qualified Planning Manager with strong civil engineering (main contractor) background needed to join busy Hong Kong main contracator, to work on civil engineering projets with a value of over $900 M HK.You will have experience on large scale civil engineering projects in (bridges, viaducts & railways) Hong Kong in a planning manager or senior planning role using primavera as the main programme planner. You will be working in a project team reporting in to the overall project manager and responsible for several staff in the planning team, excellent Primavera skills a must!The company is involved with some of the biggest infrastructure projets in Hong Kong and seeks a very high calibre candidiate for this challenging role salary $60-90k a month! Contact Nick Mackenzie 08 9486 9553 for further information on this role and other positions in asia."
To be honest, I did not manages all projects directly, however, the portfolio of projects that I control and manage is approx $800 million per years in the past two years.
I do give directions and guildlines to my scheduling managers and schedulers of how to provide a good services to the project managers. At the same time, I produce portfolio report to senior management for decision making. The balance between the two is very important, because Senior management want a degree of control and knowledge of the projects & Project manager want a high degree of flexibility and thats why balance the two requirement is vital role of a scheduler.
No problem at all. I have noticed a number of construction recruiters who "advertise" jobs first advertised by a real employer in the South China Morning Post and then pretend that the recruiter has been retained by the real employer.
When I was the Commercial Director of one of Hong Kongs largest Construction Companies I used to get annoyed when I would receive a letter from a recruitment company submitting "their" candidates in reply to my advertsement in the SCMP. If I advertised in the SCMP I did not want Agencies to reply.
I have seen and am aware of overseas recruitment agencies doing this in respect of Hong Kong Jobs advertised in the SCMP. I just wanted to make it clear that my company had a specifc mandate from my Client to seek applicants on their behalf. I have no received the Key word from Planning Plant and have advertised the job. Had a lot of responses. Unfortunately many respondents did not seem to read the ad properly and despite having great planning experience had no Building experience of the type specified in the ad and were thus immediately rejected and informed of their rejection. This notwithstanding we got some very good candidates with the experience required.
Thanks for giving me some updates in the current Hong Kong market, hopefully we will meet up sometime in the near future. BTW the phone line seem to keep playing up with me and speak to you soon.
you are correct. My Client did advertise the position directly in the SCMP classified section, but was not satisfied with the response so he came to us. We have done a number of senior assignments for this client during the last couple of years and are used to them trying to fill the position first. When they come to us and we can fill it for them, we find there is no arguement about our fee, because they have already been unsucessful at filling the postion.
IMHO it is a two ways street, as both a planner and project manager in my career. I do notice that some planners are exactly what you stated, however, a good project manager can utilise the "operator" and produce a lot of useful information out of the operator.
Say if the software is the car and the planner is the driver and the project manager is the leader with the MAP and $. I guess to reach the final destination it rely on the co-ordination between them. Of course, there is time that the driver just not listen to the one that gives directions or the one who gives direction decided to jump out of the car and let the driver curising on his own and he himself (PM) heading off to the direction he desire. either one of the above will caused unnecessary resource waste. At the end of the date the project will reach the end one way or the other, and with a good driver and a good leader "PM" it should be a smooth ride or at least a predictable ride.
There are some planning job available in HK, but not in good deal. Those vacancies are from contractors. They prefer multi-skill, like planning + IT, + safety, + QA, etc.
Now there are quite of planner in HK move out, to Thailand, Taiwan, China. Since several large scale civil projects will be completed in next few months, the supply is ...
Well! Since my arrival in Sydney 2 years ago, I believe a lot of planners and the vendor(Primavera Australia) in the area do know me well. I am not saying I am very high profile person, but at least I do prove my ability in a large no of corporation as my last job I promoted from Site planner to implementation manager to Master Planner in 12 months period.
I been working for RIC - RailCrop and now I am with EA, may be because I am more on the government type of org, so you did not came across my name, but I attended the last ANZPUG meeting in Sydney and presented the implementation of P3e/c in Rail Corp. I constantly in touch with Primavera-Aust as well as a large no of planners in the region.
BTW - master planner in Sydney I believe refer to manager of Planning Managers - at least that is my last position held I was managing 4 planning managers & lots of planners.
I am not trying to show off my experiences, hope you understand but I guess talking is not my best rather my works is.
Once again thank you for your information I will use it wisely.
And the other forum guest, thanks for the contacts.
Degree qualified Planning Manager with strong civil engineering (main contractor) background needed to join busy Hong Kong main contracator, to work on civil engineering projets with a value of over $900 M HK.You will have experience on large scale civil engineering projects in (bridges, viaducts & railways) Hong Kong in a planning manager or senior planning role using primavera as the main programme planner. You will be working in a project team reporting in to the overall project manager and responsible for several staff in the planning team, excellent Primavera skills a must!The company is involved with some of the biggest infrastructure projets in Hong Kong and seeks a very high calibre candidiate for this challenging role salary $60-90k a month! Contact Nick Mackenzie 08 9486 9553 for further information on this role and other positions in asia.
Posted Date: Wednesday, 30/06/2004
Reference No: 23052
Arrangement: Full Time
p/s: THEY MAY BE ONLY LOOKING FOR KWAI LOU, AS I BELIEVE YOU WILL HAVE PROBLEMS CONVINCING THEM THAT YOUR REPORT WRITING SKILL IS UP TO CERTAIN STANDARD AS I HAVE BEEN READING MANY OF YOUR POSTINGS, GOOD LUCK ANYWAY!
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Hi Alex,
Below is the ad from Hays Aust looking for Planning Manager again today.
I honestly hope that, with your vast experience managing planners and reputation in Sydney as well as PM experience somewhere else, you could secure this job and keep contributing to the forum (yes, decent command of English as you said, is not important) in the future.
Or, if you have submitted your details to them earlier, then I believe they have overlooked you capabilities.
Very good luck to you and frank comments from me.
regards
Nik Mazli
+++++++++++
"Degree qualified Planning Manager with strong civil engineering (main contractor) background needed to join busy Hong Kong main contracator, to work on civil engineering projets with a value of over $900 M HK.You will have experience on large scale civil engineering projects in (bridges, viaducts & railways) Hong Kong in a planning manager or senior planning role using primavera as the main programme planner. You will be working in a project team reporting in to the overall project manager and responsible for several staff in the planning team, excellent Primavera skills a must!The company is involved with some of the biggest infrastructure projets in Hong Kong and seeks a very high calibre candidiate for this challenging role salary $60-90k a month! Contact Nick Mackenzie 08 9486 9553 for further information on this role and other positions in asia."
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Hi Alan
To be honest, I did not manages all projects directly, however, the portfolio of projects that I control and manage is approx $800 million per years in the past two years.
I do give directions and guildlines to my scheduling managers and schedulers of how to provide a good services to the project managers. At the same time, I produce portfolio report to senior management for decision making. The balance between the two is very important, because Senior management want a degree of control and knowledge of the projects & Project manager want a high degree of flexibility and thats why balance the two requirement is vital role of a scheduler.
Cheers
Alex
Alex
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Hi Alex
I hope that in future I can learn from you how to utilise the schedulers that work for me.
By the way, how many projects in Sydney have you managed?
They must be quite successful - honest comment from the bottom of my heart!
Your PM friend
Alan Hansen
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21 years 3 monthsRE: Jobs in Hong Kong
MK,
No problem at all. I have noticed a number of construction recruiters who "advertise" jobs first advertised by a real employer in the South China Morning Post and then pretend that the recruiter has been retained by the real employer.
When I was the Commercial Director of one of Hong Kongs largest Construction Companies I used to get annoyed when I would receive a letter from a recruitment company submitting "their" candidates in reply to my advertsement in the SCMP. If I advertised in the SCMP I did not want Agencies to reply.
I have seen and am aware of overseas recruitment agencies doing this in respect of Hong Kong Jobs advertised in the SCMP. I just wanted to make it clear that my company had a specifc mandate from my Client to seek applicants on their behalf. I have no received the Key word from Planning Plant and have advertised the job. Had a lot of responses. Unfortunately many respondents did not seem to read the ad properly and despite having great planning experience had no Building experience of the type specified in the ad and were thus immediately rejected and informed of their rejection. This notwithstanding we got some very good candidates with the experience required.
Feel free to visit us at www.prshk.com
Regards,
Steve Tennant
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Steve, Im not query your services and posted information, let stated my observation.
From newspaper, Hsin Cheong Group stated theyll sale the construction company 3 or 4 years later.
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Steve,
Thanks for giving me some updates in the current Hong Kong market, hopefully we will meet up sometime in the near future. BTW the phone line seem to keep playing up with me and speak to you soon.
Cheers
Alex
awong@energy.com.au
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MK,
you are correct. My Client did advertise the position directly in the SCMP classified section, but was not satisfied with the response so he came to us. We have done a number of senior assignments for this client during the last couple of years and are used to them trying to fill the position first. When they come to us and we can fill it for them, we find there is no arguement about our fee, because they have already been unsucessful at filling the postion.
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Forum Guest
IMHO it is a two ways street, as both a planner and project manager in my career. I do notice that some planners are exactly what you stated, however, a good project manager can utilise the "operator" and produce a lot of useful information out of the operator.
Say if the software is the car and the planner is the driver and the project manager is the leader with the MAP and $. I guess to reach the final destination it rely on the co-ordination between them. Of course, there is time that the driver just not listen to the one that gives directions or the one who gives direction decided to jump out of the car and let the driver curising on his own and he himself (PM) heading off to the direction he desire. either one of the above will caused unnecessary resource waste. At the end of the date the project will reach the end one way or the other, and with a good driver and a good leader "PM" it should be a smooth ride or at least a predictable ride.
Hope you understand what I try to said .... :}
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16 years 9 monthsRE: Jobs in Hong Kong
with due respect to Alex Wong, I must say that there are many GOOD software operators calling themselves planners.
As a Preoject Manager, I have hired many operators who cant plan, but only convert my construction managers handrawn program into P3.
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23 years 8 monthsRE: Jobs in Hong Kong
Steve, that Senior Programme Manager position been openned to public quite a while on Classified Post. I remember at least 2 weeks time.
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Alex,
There are some planning job available in HK, but not in good deal. Those vacancies are from contractors. They prefer multi-skill, like planning + IT, + safety, + QA, etc.
Now there are quite of planner in HK move out, to Thailand, Taiwan, China. Since several large scale civil projects will be completed in next few months, the supply is ...
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22 years 8 monthsRE: Jobs in Hong Kong
Thanks John,
Well! Since my arrival in Sydney 2 years ago, I believe a lot of planners and the vendor(Primavera Australia) in the area do know me well. I am not saying I am very high profile person, but at least I do prove my ability in a large no of corporation as my last job I promoted from Site planner to implementation manager to Master Planner in 12 months period.
I been working for RIC - RailCrop and now I am with EA, may be because I am more on the government type of org, so you did not came across my name, but I attended the last ANZPUG meeting in Sydney and presented the implementation of P3e/c in Rail Corp. I constantly in touch with Primavera-Aust as well as a large no of planners in the region.
BTW - master planner in Sydney I believe refer to manager of Planning Managers - at least that is my last position held I was managing 4 planning managers & lots of planners.
I am not trying to show off my experiences, hope you understand but I guess talking is not my best rather my works is.
Once again thank you for your information I will use it wisely.
And the other forum guest, thanks for the contacts.
Thank you planners... really appreicated
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www.freemans.com.hk
www.nes.com.hk
www.scmp.com.hk try the classifieds
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I am not too sure about one of the well known MASTER planner(s) in Sydney as I have not heard of your name before apart from the postings here.
Anyway, as a MASTER planner, try this,
Vanessa Ko
Pickavance Consulting Ltd
1902, 59 Connaught Rd
Central
Hong Kong
Tel: +852 3188 3830
Fax: +852 3188 1577
E-mail: vanessa@pickavancehk.com
Web: http://www.pickavance.co.uk
I am sure that you will find it challenging working for a company like this.
BEST OF LUCK
John Hewitt
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Thanks forum Guest,
I do come across that role b4, but I think the position is currently on hold. Anyway, thanks for your help.
As one of the well known master planner here in Sydney, I guess I am more that qualify for the position regardless I am Chinese or Western... :}
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Degree qualified Planning Manager with strong civil engineering (main contractor) background needed to join busy Hong Kong main contracator, to work on civil engineering projets with a value of over $900 M HK.You will have experience on large scale civil engineering projects in (bridges, viaducts & railways) Hong Kong in a planning manager or senior planning role using primavera as the main programme planner. You will be working in a project team reporting in to the overall project manager and responsible for several staff in the planning team, excellent Primavera skills a must!The company is involved with some of the biggest infrastructure projets in Hong Kong and seeks a very high calibre candidiate for this challenging role salary $60-90k a month! Contact Nick Mackenzie 08 9486 9553 for further information on this role and other positions in asia.
Posted Date: Wednesday, 30/06/2004
Reference No: 23052
Arrangement: Full Time
p/s: THEY MAY BE ONLY LOOKING FOR KWAI LOU, AS I BELIEVE YOU WILL HAVE PROBLEMS CONVINCING THEM THAT YOUR REPORT WRITING SKILL IS UP TO CERTAIN STANDARD AS I HAVE BEEN READING MANY OF YOUR POSTINGS, GOOD LUCK ANYWAY!