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Primavera License

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Adjie Heryanto
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All,

I’d like to know is Primavera’s license
attached to the database file,
or based on number of logged-in user ?

Note that we’re using 4.1 version.

Thanks,
Adjie - Jakarta

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Adjie Heryanto
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All, thanks for your comments...

What I’ve understand from the Primavera Reps. here,
is that the only reason to have another license,
because when we setting up a Primavera 4.1 system,
legally we can only attach it to one single database
(check menu Help -> About -> System).

Yes we can create another database, but we need to
load the license everytime we want to switch between
databases using DB Config tool.

That’s all folks....

Cheers,
Adjie - Jakarta
Alex Wong
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Thats why a excellent planner with exellent IT skill is a rare animal in the PP world.....
Henk van der Heide
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Dear Ronald

Sometimes life is a bitch.
But normaly (in my case) when the system is up and running you dont have to be an I.T. Specialist. And we (the planners) "only" have to wory about the schedule.
But one thing for sure, the software is becomming more and more complex but isn’t this what the people want? Web based multiuser/multiproject/scalabel ............etc,etc, ??



Regards

Henk
Ronald Winter
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I just wanted to be a Scheduler and turned into a Database Manager. I do not know where I went wrong!
Alex Wong
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Dear All,

I think I might able to help on this licensing area.

Firstly, there is two main selection of database platform where P3e product can run. SQL or Oracle. These database licenses is related to the number of users accessing the database. These licenses are supplied by Primavera when you purchases the product. However, if your company already have a SQL Database server and already have sufficence licenses than you do not need additional licenses to run P3e. That means Primavera Supplier do not need to supply the additional database licenses for you. However, regardless whether Primavera Supplier do or don’t supply the licenses the price for the software is fixed.
Thats is the database licenses.

Secondly, user licenses for Primavera product. That is the user front interface if you understand the different between a database and application software. This licenses is seperate from the database licenses. That means doest matter how many database user licenses you have you can only have the amount of users licenses that is attached to the "user front application" Primavera P3e.

The application software licenses come in two form. Name licenses or Concurrent licenses. In terms of $ it is approx 2 named licenses = 1 concurrent licenses. @ present Primavera is seperate it as the type of product that you deploy. I think for IT industry they gave you named licenses and Construction/Engineering industry they gave you concurrent licenses. This is kind of inherent from the P3 license setup.

Hope that clarify your question

Regards

Alex
Henk van der Heide
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Hello Ronald.
Your name sounds dutch but i see you’re living in America.
Anyhow.
There are 2 things (i think) When installing primavera you have to put in the product key, this is a short number for installing Primavera.
Second the database you’re connecting to needs to have the right licence, indeed this can be named or concurrend. So this license on the database determence how many user u have licence for (concurrent or named)



Regards

Henk
Ronald Winter
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I hesitated to reply to your original question because I am not an expert in this field. I don’t work for Primavera. I am responding now because I believe that Henk’s answer is incorrect.

P3e and P3e/c is a program that depends upon a database server for its information. The program has no control over the database, only access. Control over the data files is the data server’s job. P3e and P3e/c control the logins to the scheduling program. This is where the number of licenses is handled.

Any other program (if it has been granted access) can also access the data server and access the scheduling files. P3e and P3e/c has no control over this, hence there is no licenses involved here. In fact, they do not even know of this other access. My Schedule Analyzer for the Enterprise program is such a program that accesses the P3e scheduling files without P3e ever knowing about it.

Perhaps Henk is referring to the fact that P3e uses “named licenses” and P3e/c uses “concurrent users.” Named licenses means that there is a registered license for a single person and no other. The entire list of named people can be using the P3e program at the same time.

Concurrent licenses uses a ‘first-come-first-served’ philosophy that allows anyone on a large list of possible users to log on to P3e/c up to the point that the number of licenses are reached and then no more.

Hope this helps. Good luck!
Henk van der Heide
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Adjie,

The licence is indeed attached to the database.
Same goes for the number of licences.

Regards

Henk