i once had a telephone interview which i cant hear clearly what the other side is saying, and all i did was say yes (i cant remember exactly how many yes ive said), but i got the job!
i did it the second time (the same situation - not clear), and ive never heard from them again!
my belief is, if the job is for you! then its for you! if not, then forget it!
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Submitted by Nigel Winkley on Mon, 2008-09-08 09:30
We often ask questions like "Give me an example of where you solved the problem of not getting progress", "...how you used EV", "what are the 3 most important aspects of planning", "How do you show that planning is useful to PMs".
Oh and take your MP3 player off during the interview - one guy i interviewed had his Walkman on during the interview! He didnt get the job - I didnt like his music which i could hear! Seriously
Thats true Oliver, I have a lot of friends. They are planners in designation but they are not very familiar in Primavera. When you ask them regarding the Site Works, most of them answered correctly.
Ive got a telephonic interview before and the guy asked me regarding the Global Change, Floats, Constraint & Milestone and thats it.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Fri, 2008-09-05 06:25
True, but i think that software questions do need to be asked in order ensure you get someone who can hit the ground running. A planner who has spent 20 years on MSP will need a little time and training to get used to something like P6.
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Submitted by Nicolas Berger on Fri, 2008-09-05 06:21
Im not a beginner in Planning & Scheduling but I hate being asked questions on critical path, blabla bla. It does not make any sense to me especially by phone.
When you look at a resume and if you check references by giving a call you know that the guy is suitable for the position and it is not necessary to ask these theoritical questions.
A dumb-ass question is a dumb-ass question whether its in Punjabi or Mandarin Chinese. And anyway, if their English is that poor how can you be sure they are interpreting any advice given correctly?
This is NOT a language issue I am commenting on.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Fri, 2008-09-05 05:01
"I think the type and quality of questions often asked in this forum illustrates this perfectly"
Ha ha ... totally agree with this point... its laughable the amount of ridiculous questions asked on these forums by people who have obviously been tasked with positions and challenges well above their planning experience and suitability.... eg
hElo all, my Name is mustafer, and i wish to build new 130 level tower in dubai. do you have idea about how i build tower ? what tower made of ? what best mix for concrete foundation ? i very thankful for idea.
your honorably,
mustafer
If asking questions about forward and backward passes keeps these numpties out of the industry Im all for it.
Hi Tom, I told of this example because my experience of many young/new planners and schedulers has shown me that a lack of basic understanding of the methodology of network analysis coupled with total dependence on computer based planning programs to do their thinking for them is exactly why there are so many problems these days in the planning of many projects. I think the type and quality of questions often aked in this forum illustrates this perfectly. Anyway - would you stop teaching children arithmetic just because electronic calculators exist?
"how to do a forward & backward pass " - Omar, are you living in 1982 ?
This is not in the least bit relevant to modern planning. A computer will do this very easily for you these days. I have been to many interviews over the years (and the only job I wasnt offered was at Bovis in Manchester), and no-one has EVER asked me to perform a forward / backward pass. Wouldnt have a clue how to do it, and have never needed to know. Show me a planner who can write a decent method statement, understand prelim build up or alternative construction methodology above that any day of the week !
If you applied for a job at Tesco on the tills, they wouldnt test your ability to add up the prices on a basket of shopping....
My encounters of planning interviews is that they will ask about previous experience and get you to talk through case studies ie challenges you may have faced as a team and individually on those schemes. They need to know what your responsibilities were, as planning differs so much from company to company
They will want to understand your technical ability ie knowledge of software, and perhaps your understanding of general Project Management eg explain float or a critical path.
If you are fresh to the industry it will concentrate on your motivation for becoming a planner (its surprising how many people have told me "because I heard it pays well..."), and what attracts you to the industry.
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Submitted by Ashutosh Nema, PMP on Tue, 2008-09-02 08:55
I dont know how much experience you have but In my telephonic interview they asked me general question like Total float,negetive flot,lag,reletionship related question,recovery schedule,level of programme.
They also asked me about the Baseline and update checking and One more thing they will more inclined towards your current job profile ur contribution for the project etc....
Be clear and specific.
Wish u best of luck...
Ashutosh Nema
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Submitted by Carmen Arape on Tue, 2008-09-02 08:27
Be confident and do not lie. The interviewers have presented some planning scenarios and I was able to answer with my experience to one scenario BUT to the other one I did not have a clue. I was sincere in my answer and express confidence in managing the potential situation.
Be yourself, do not pretend to be the perfect planner.
Listen FIRST and at the moment of answering, please shows that you are proactive and optimistic person.
Give the impression of a winner in LIFE and It is not how good you are and most important is how good you want to be.
I got an offer 4 years ago for an senior planning management position through telephone interviews alone. (in total 4 telephone interviews)
1st time - senior managers
2nd time - clients (the position is project based)
3nd time - clients + senior managers
4th time - company director
After that is all about salary packaging
The key is, be confident, know your trade (well you cannot fake that), listen to their needs and provide a solution that fit their needs.
As a planner, I believe there is 2 key qualities I am looking for in all level of planner - communication skill + analytial skill and if the interviewer is smart enough, it can pick up very quickly. And these skill you will not able to prepare or fake.
Hi Nicolas, Just dont be like a person I interviewed over the telephone a few years ago - I asked him how, if he was in a situation where he had only paper & pencil and he was asked to plan something, how would he proceed. I was, of course, expecting some sort of explanantion of how he would create a network of activities, do a forward & backward pass etc. After a lengthy silence, this guy said "I would use the papaer to write a letter to my manager requesting a PC and a copy of Primavera!!" I suppose you have to award marks for quick thinking!
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i once had a telephone interview which i cant hear clearly what the other side is saying, and all i did was say yes (i cant remember exactly how many yes ive said), but i got the job!
i did it the second time (the same situation - not clear), and ive never heard from them again!
my belief is, if the job is for you! then its for you! if not, then forget it!
Member for
19 years 5 monthsRE: Questions about Planning during Interviews
We often ask questions like "Give me an example of where you solved the problem of not getting progress", "...how you used EV", "what are the 3 most important aspects of planning", "How do you show that planning is useful to PMs".
Oh and take your MP3 player off during the interview - one guy i interviewed had his Walkman on during the interview! He didnt get the job - I didnt like his music which i could hear! Seriously
And good luck!
Nige
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18 years 6 monthsRE: Questions about Planning during Interviews
Thats true Oliver, I have a lot of friends. They are planners in designation but they are not very familiar in Primavera. When you ask them regarding the Site Works, most of them answered correctly.
Ive got a telephonic interview before and the guy asked me regarding the Global Change, Floats, Constraint & Milestone and thats it.
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18 years 6 monthsRE: Questions about Planning during Interviews
True, but i think that software questions do need to be asked in order ensure you get someone who can hit the ground running. A planner who has spent 20 years on MSP will need a little time and training to get used to something like P6.
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19 years 4 monthsRE: Questions about Planning during Interviews
Im not a beginner in Planning & Scheduling but I hate being asked questions on critical path, blabla bla. It does not make any sense to me especially by phone.
When you look at a resume and if you check references by giving a call you know that the guy is suitable for the position and it is not necessary to ask these theoritical questions.
But well see.
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A dumb-ass question is a dumb-ass question whether its in Punjabi or Mandarin Chinese. And anyway, if their English is that poor how can you be sure they are interpreting any advice given correctly?
This is NOT a language issue I am commenting on.
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Tom,
I agree some of the questions are laughable.....but you do have to remember that some of these people are asking questions in a non-native language!
If you posted a question in arabic during the first 2 weeks of you career what would yours say?
There will always be charlatans and people winging it, but imo they just make people who know what theyre on about it look better.
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"I think the type and quality of questions often asked in this forum illustrates this perfectly"
Ha ha ... totally agree with this point... its laughable the amount of ridiculous questions asked on these forums by people who have obviously been tasked with positions and challenges well above their planning experience and suitability.... eg
hElo all, my Name is mustafer, and i wish to build new 130 level tower in dubai. do you have idea about how i build tower ? what tower made of ? what best mix for concrete foundation ? i very thankful for idea.
your honorably,
mustafer
If asking questions about forward and backward passes keeps these numpties out of the industry Im all for it.
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Dear planners
Theroy is important but I think my question will be differnt instead of asking forward pass I would ask.
Where should we use constraint, and why
and What is the reason try to avoid using constraints
How to do a delay analysis, what are the ways to bring forward a schedule.
Still the most important quality in a planner / scheduler is "COMMUNICATION" IMHO
Regards
Alex
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Hi Tom, I told of this example because my experience of many young/new planners and schedulers has shown me that a lack of basic understanding of the methodology of network analysis coupled with total dependence on computer based planning programs to do their thinking for them is exactly why there are so many problems these days in the planning of many projects. I think the type and quality of questions often aked in this forum illustrates this perfectly. Anyway - would you stop teaching children arithmetic just because electronic calculators exist?
cheers, Omar
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"how to do a forward & backward pass " - Omar, are you living in 1982 ?
This is not in the least bit relevant to modern planning. A computer will do this very easily for you these days. I have been to many interviews over the years (and the only job I wasnt offered was at Bovis in Manchester), and no-one has EVER asked me to perform a forward / backward pass. Wouldnt have a clue how to do it, and have never needed to know. Show me a planner who can write a decent method statement, understand prelim build up or alternative construction methodology above that any day of the week !
If you applied for a job at Tesco on the tills, they wouldnt test your ability to add up the prices on a basket of shopping....
My encounters of planning interviews is that they will ask about previous experience and get you to talk through case studies ie challenges you may have faced as a team and individually on those schemes. They need to know what your responsibilities were, as planning differs so much from company to company
They will want to understand your technical ability ie knowledge of software, and perhaps your understanding of general Project Management eg explain float or a critical path.
If you are fresh to the industry it will concentrate on your motivation for becoming a planner (its surprising how many people have told me "because I heard it pays well..."), and what attracts you to the industry.
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Hi
I dont know how much experience you have but In my telephonic interview they asked me general question like Total float,negetive flot,lag,reletionship related question,recovery schedule,level of programme.
They also asked me about the Baseline and update checking and One more thing they will more inclined towards your current job profile ur contribution for the project etc....
Be clear and specific.
Wish u best of luck...
Ashutosh Nema
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21 years 4 monthsRE: Questions about Planning during Interviews
Nicolas,
My experience after two telephone interviews is:
Be confident and do not lie. The interviewers have presented some planning scenarios and I was able to answer with my experience to one scenario BUT to the other one I did not have a clue. I was sincere in my answer and express confidence in managing the potential situation.
Be yourself, do not pretend to be the perfect planner.
Listen FIRST and at the moment of answering, please shows that you are proactive and optimistic person.
Give the impression of a winner in LIFE and It is not how good you are and most important is how good you want to be.
Cheers,
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19 years 1 monthRE: Questions about Planning during Interviews
what will you expect? expect that they dont know planning as well, thats why they need one
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22 years 8 monthsRE: Questions about Planning during Interviews
Hi Nicolas
Would like to share an experience with you
I got an offer 4 years ago for an senior planning management position through telephone interviews alone. (in total 4 telephone interviews)
1st time - senior managers
2nd time - clients (the position is project based)
3nd time - clients + senior managers
4th time - company director
After that is all about salary packaging
The key is, be confident, know your trade (well you cannot fake that), listen to their needs and provide a solution that fit their needs.
As a planner, I believe there is 2 key qualities I am looking for in all level of planner - communication skill + analytial skill and if the interviewer is smart enough, it can pick up very quickly. And these skill you will not able to prepare or fake.
Good Luck + and just relax
Alex
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20 years 1 monthRE: Questions about Planning during Interviews
Hi Nicolas, Just dont be like a person I interviewed over the telephone a few years ago - I asked him how, if he was in a situation where he had only paper & pencil and he was asked to plan something, how would he proceed. I was, of course, expecting some sort of explanantion of how he would create a network of activities, do a forward & backward pass etc. After a lengthy silence, this guy said "I would use the papaer to write a letter to my manager requesting a PC and a copy of Primavera!!" I suppose you have to award marks for quick thinking!
cheers,
Omar