There are many things that help to track the progress of the project. Materials are one. You must track your shop drawings (being submited by sub-contractors and approved by the architect) to insure that materials are recieved in a timely fashion so as not to delay progress. You should define items with long leed times. One item might delay several sub-contractors or delay the entire project. Even though you show progress as work complete to date compared against a baseline you need to track your materials. This is an important factor in schedualing a project.
well, i think it went back to the same statement (..work execution should be measured in its own appropriate resource...). i think, it represents, a fact, that, every activity has its own way of evaluation and measurement.
my regargs for all,
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Submitted by Ernesto Puyana on Fri, 2002-04-26 13:57
I think the best solution to this discussion is EVPM.
Each activity's progress is measured in it's own units, translated to percent complete and used to compute earned value.
In this environment, the A/C unit discussion looses relevance, since all you do is compare a budget against a real progress.
The point is how much does each activity contribute to the whole effort. Well, you can manage that computing earned value in either dollars, man-hours, steel tons, concrete M3, etc.
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Submitted by Tomas Rivera on Wed, 2002-04-03 06:37
Progress acomplished, by itself, does not really mean anything useful. What is more important is how much we have acomplished compared to our baseline progress metrics. In other words, have we acomplished as much as we need to, to date? You can measure this in terms of cost, duration or any resource metrics. It does not really matter as long as you are consistent with your measurements. Better yet, you should have two progress baseline curves. One for the earliest baseline schedule and another for the latest baseline schedule. Your actual progress should fall in between these two curves.
One word of caution: progress is only one side of the coin for making sure our project is on track.
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Submitted by Ernesto Montales on Mon, 2002-03-25 04:28
I definitely agree, in our practice, we measure progress based on physical accomplishment. It not good to report that a particular equipment is there, of it is not installed it is still not a deliverable. It does not serve its function.
no body can disagree with that statement "work execution should be measured in its own appropriate resource" as progress measurements varies with every recourse involved and its activity. as far as electromechanical contractor, installing A/C chiller, is an important milestone. and for a civil one, block works is a time consuming activity. for a main contractor, who needs to know when will pay that much.
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Submitted by Saleh Elshobokshi on Thu, 2002-03-21 07:11
I do not agree with your with regard to cost, take and example of the A/C Chiller it costs a lot compared to 1 m sq of render lets say. When I deliver this chiller to site that does not mean that I have progressed a lot. I want to measure the project from effort done point of view.
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Submitted by Han Pekelharing on Wed, 2002-03-20 10:03
I think work execution should be measured in its own appropriate resource , so mhrs,m2, m3, tonnages etc. For the total rollup up a projects progress mhrs are fine as long as there are no purchases/deliveries involved.
A project with engineering/procurement and construction should be measured in cost or a cost-based weightfactor as this is the only common factor for all.
Last , i always prefer to make a combination of all three , quantities, mhrs and cost. More work at the start, but better control ovr the project.
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23 years 5 monthsRe: Construction Benchmarking
There are many things that help to track the progress of the project. Materials are one. You must track your shop drawings (being submited by sub-contractors and approved by the architect) to insure that materials are recieved in a timely fashion so as not to delay progress. You should define items with long leed times. One item might delay several sub-contractors or delay the entire project. Even though you show progress as work complete to date compared against a baseline you need to track your materials. This is an important factor in schedualing a project.
William E. Stakelin
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24 years 3 monthsRe: Construction Benchmarking
well, i think it went back to the same statement (..work execution should be measured in its own appropriate resource...). i think, it represents, a fact, that, every activity has its own way of evaluation and measurement.
my regargs for all,
mohd
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24 years 9 monthsRe: Construction Benchmarking
I think the best solution to this discussion is EVPM.
Each activity's progress is measured in it's own units, translated to percent complete and used to compute earned value.
In this environment, the A/C unit discussion looses relevance, since all you do is compare a budget against a real progress.
The point is how much does each activity contribute to the whole effort. Well, you can manage that computing earned value in either dollars, man-hours, steel tons, concrete M3, etc.
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24 years 5 monthsRe: Construction Benchmarking
Another point of view from the comments above:
Progress acomplished, by itself, does not really mean anything useful. What is more important is how much we have acomplished compared to our baseline progress metrics. In other words, have we acomplished as much as we need to, to date? You can measure this in terms of cost, duration or any resource metrics. It does not really matter as long as you are consistent with your measurements. Better yet, you should have two progress baseline curves. One for the earliest baseline schedule and another for the latest baseline schedule. Your actual progress should fall in between these two curves.
One word of caution: progress is only one side of the coin for making sure our project is on track.
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23 years 7 monthsRe: Construction Benchmarking
I definitely agree, in our practice, we measure progress based on physical accomplishment. It not good to report that a particular equipment is there, of it is not installed it is still not a deliverable. It does not serve its function.
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24 years 3 monthsRe: Construction Benchmarking
no body can disagree with that statement "work execution should be measured in its own appropriate resource" as progress measurements varies with every recourse involved and its activity. as far as electromechanical contractor, installing A/C chiller, is an important milestone. and for a civil one, block works is a time consuming activity. for a main contractor, who needs to know when will pay that much.
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23 years 7 monthsRe: Construction Benchmarking
I do not agree with your with regard to cost, take and example of the A/C Chiller it costs a lot compared to 1 m sq of render lets say. When I deliver this chiller to site that does not mean that I have progressed a lot. I want to measure the project from effort done point of view.
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24 yearsRe: Construction Benchmarking
I think work execution should be measured in its own appropriate resource , so mhrs,m2, m3, tonnages etc. For the total rollup up a projects progress mhrs are fine as long as there are no purchases/deliveries involved.
A project with engineering/procurement and construction should be measured in cost or a cost-based weightfactor as this is the only common factor for all.
Last , i always prefer to make a combination of all three , quantities, mhrs and cost. More work at the start, but better control ovr the project.