In case there is a database available with standard norms for welding of pipes and structural steel. Please share the same with us PP’er’s.

Dear my friends,
They are available on the internet.
Please search with these keywords in the search engine( such as google);

"mil-std"
and
"Project management" or "wbs" or "SOW" or "project risks" and etc

Sample website :
1- www.acq.osd.mil/pm/newpolicy/wbs/wbs.html
2- sparc.airtime.co.uk/users/wysywig/sow_mt.htm
3- www.pppl.gov/me/NCSX_Engineering/SOW/ MIL-STD-245_Guidelines_SOW.pdf
4- www.incose.org/stc/mil499.htm - 85k

Best Regards

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M.R. - OK. I would be interested in looking at them. How do you find them? Are they available on the internet? Do you have a URL/link to them? Are they available in a print publication? If so, what is the title?

Bernard Ertl
InterPlan Systems Inc. - Project Management Software, Project Planning Software

i just wonder whether planning planet could gather some info like is there any standard for example
excavation-what machinery we need so on and so forth
well i know it depends on locality but minimum requirement there should be an agreement to it

excavation - excavator (nos depend on output), lorries (etc), bulldozer (needed?) etc

filling - dumper (?) lorries (?) compactor (?) grader (?) etc

if anyone could share some of their experience could be useful to us newcomer

My friend,
DoD = Dictioanry of Military

Regards

Hi,
please see DoD ( or Mil-std-***) standards for PM.

Regards

I FULLY AGREE WITH YOUR VIEWS. OUTPUT IS ALWAYS DEPENDENT ON THE OTHER FACTORS BUT STILL WE CAN HAVE THE GENERAL IDEA FOR THE OUTPUT RATES OF THE MOST ITEMS/ACTIVITY. THIS WILL HELP IN OUTLINING THE PROJECT WHEN WE DO NOT HAVE ALL THE REQUIRED DATA. WHILE DETAILING THE PROJECT SCHEDULE, WE CAN CONSIDER THE OTHER FACTORS.

REGARDS

Its a good idea to have a standerd norms for all the activities.

From the time the estimate is prepared and the price for the project tendered the ’Estimator’ should have used some form of ’Performance factor’ possibly taken from ’Spons’or using his own experience.

This should be your starting point, however, most projects are won because somebody in their wisdom wants the project at any cost and the Tender Programme has to then be tailored to suit the necessary requirements of time.

If your project has been awarded under favourable conditions and feed back on rates does not exist in your organisation then you have a problem.

Standard Performance rates(based on Work Study Methods) were a highly guarded secret from the early fifties up to until the advent of ’Management Contracting’.

Some companies still jealously guard this information as it is seen as giving too much away to their competitors.

www.hpcconsult.co.uk are currently publishing their own production rate standard norms to cover all trades.

Whilst some rates are available on the website it will be another 2 years before we attain a full listing of rates.This will then be the nearest to what we see as Standard Norms’ Working conditions/ethics around the world do vary and any rates given must be considered and WEIGHED according to the locality.

An example of this could be-
1)Work force incentive schemes Yes or No?
2)Production slow during Holy Festivals(fasting etc)
3) Poor continuity
4) Poor site management

I hope this has been of some help

Regards
Mike Harvey

Dear Sir,
Even you can find such things, you couldn’t use that for all of your project, because each project has its characteristics and you should be care about exact norms or rates for each type of activities.

These rates shall be modified based on the project conditions.

Best regards,
Ali Vessali