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Mervilyne Pangan...
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Hi guys,
Im wonderin how my schedule should look like if my delays are unproductive workforce, no access in areas, delay in handing over the areas and delay in payment..

Can anyone suggest?


Thank you,


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Rafael Davila
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Shahul

At times the updating goes in your favor as you instead of falling behind start getting ahead the time savings cannot be taken away from you for free.

In theory the idea is to show true impact.

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Rafael
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Thanks Rafael
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To include all prior delays to the TIA, you as a contractor might be late and by showing status just prior to the delay event this is taken into account, then you enter the Owners caused delay.
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would you please tell me why do we impact delay event after updating a schedule just prior to delay event?
why not earlier to updating it
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Shahul,

The definition of TIA might vary substantially, the TIA I know is supposed to be best used when you are negotiating EOTs in the prospective, that is as soon as the delay occurs, before the project ends.

Essentially you update the job to the moment prior to the start of the delay events, this will give you a projected finish date for the job, and then you add the delaying events and this will give you a revised projected finis date for the job. The difference between both dates is your EOT. This procedure requires a good CPM being updated and that all prior delaying events were included under prior TIAs, whether delays by Owner, by Contractor or any other such as bad weather as these might open some float already considered under the prior TIAs and applicable EOTs.

When you do not have a reliable CPM the other sophisticated procedures come into play, these shall be analyzed by a forensic expert. I know nothing about the other methods, no need yet.

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Rafael
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@Rafael
In my case would you be please tell me how to claim for EOT for the example i have shown below if not float to be taken as reference point
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Hi Rafael

The Art of delay analysis (and it is an Art not a Science) is to replicate what actually happened as compared with what was intended.

Success depends on the quality of the information available.

80% of my work is done on spreadsheets and the barchart is used to create a picture of the results.

To get to the point it happens occasionally when a specialist sub-contractor has booked his labour to attend on site in a pre-planned time slot.

When this slot is missed he takes his labour elswhere and a new time slot is booked.

When he returns to his work other trades may be waiting to start.

All of this will be found in the records or from primary source witnesses.

The programme is adjusted accordingly and the picture is drawn.

If I were to rely solely on programme software to demonstrate this delay I would be laughed out of court.

The same as in work in progress - the specialist contractor should be allotted a time slot in the calendar.

I recently worked on a large museum refit where the pumped self levelling screeds needed 2 calendar days for curing.

A programme was set up so that the works could only be done on Friday nights.

If one slot was missed then it was done a week later and available float was used until it turned critical.

All carried out on rubbish software.

I use powerproject to its limits and can achieve and / or replicate every circumstance that I have yet come across.

I do this by using my own judgement rather than relying on an uncontrolled system that I cannot later reliably explain to a Judge.

Best regards

Mike Testro

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Mike,

In a resource constrained schedule you can generate a delay without using up "float" as defined by most CPM software, unless you create "soft dependencies" a dirty trick which does not reflect true constraints as the schedule is updated.

This was true in ancient times when CPM was in pampers with no consideration for resource leveling, not to mention additional multi-constraint scheduling.

Most of todays CPM software will display available float when in reality a delay in these activities will delay the job because of limited resource availability. An activity with duration of 10 days might show 30 days float but if you delay it by a single day it may happen that it will not be done until resources are available, delaying the whole job by more than a single day, without the rubbish software showing them as critical, just filter for critical activities, no resource critical activity will be shown.

Incredible, the rubbish software showing 30 days float while a single day delay under resource constraining will delay the job by more than a single day. The software does not shows the float is consumed up; it might still show some positive float after resource leveling.

Even when using the appropriate software such as Spider Project it is kind of unnatural to use the concept of float in Scheduling Protocols. Asta Power Project and all Primavera Software lack the functionality to identify true critical path, therefore cannot fall in the appropriate software group. Just keep it simple, define EOTs as a function of impact on Contract Date(s).

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Rafael
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Hi Rafael

Float is not a measure of delay.

Float has to be used up before a delay can be registered.

Best regards

Mike Testro
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Shahul,

Forget about float, under resource constrained schedule it means nothing, unless your software provides for resource critical path. I do not understand how Protocols that consider themselves knowledgeable on the issue still insist in using float as a measure of delay.

Compare both projections for Early Job Finish and this will give you the EOT, of course assuming your TIA is correct.

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Rafael
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Please respond.....
Assume x is programme updated as of 1 feb 09 with project completion as total float -10
y is programmed with delay event impacted on 1 feb 09 programme x with project completion as total float -100

z is the baseline with project completion total float 0

so is that 90 days [100-10] is th number of days claimed for EOT??????
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Hi Rafael

This was not a salmon river but native brown trout.

The project was to lay a new pipeline across the Yorkshire dales alongside a very old pipe that had been put down in Victorian times.

The Contractor waited for the fish breeding season to end and when excavation started they found an old empty culvert under the river that the Victorian engineer had put in so that the next pipe could cross easily and at any time.

How we laughed.

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You could have used a fish stair.
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Hi Samer

Other situations that I have experienced are:

A UK pipeline crossing a river where there was no work allowed during the fish breeding season.

No Bulk Eathrworks allowed in clay material from November to March.

Application of mastic to installed windows in Siberia only allowed when the ambient temperature is + 8 deg C. - mostly - 30.

So calendars are important.

I recently presented a complete delay analysis and disruption claim using ONLY different calendars.

Best regards

Mike Testro.
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Hi,

Lets say that you are building a station on an island in the middle of the Rain Season. This is an actual situation that happened and the actual number of working days per month was 15.

No matter what precautions the Contractor takes, they can’t work in the heavy rains.

With kind regards,

Samer
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I totally agree with Mike. I have worked 30+ years on New York City government contracts and have never seen any contract language that allows the Contractor to file a claim for "bad weather". I also have never seen a Contractor claim for a weather delay, even with the occasional hurricane and blizzards in New York City. Mike makes an excellent point about keeping track of unusual weather and its effect on the schedule. Such info is valuable when trying to analyze things a few years down the road.

Lawrence
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Mike

"When weather days occur, and are approved as such ..." That was not my words.

I know, is on the specs and it happens I am against this requirement, this was an additional comment on my part, another point of disagreement I have with such spec.

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Rafael
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Hi Rafael

"When weather days occur, and are approved as such ..."

That was not my words.

By replacing the anticipated weather stoppages with the actual you are demonstrating the actual effect.

If there are actually more stoppages than anticipated and the critical path is affected then you have the basis for a realistic EoT claim.

The actual weather calendar is essential for Delay Analysis because work planned in summer is often delayed into winter with consequential delays.

Where I come across programmes that do not have an anticipated weather calendar - that is all of them so far - then I have to create the anticipated calendar and shorten those baseline activities that cross it so as to achieve the planned completion date.

Then switch the anticipted weahter to the actual weather and see the results.

On a recent civils claim in South Wales the wind speed factor was critical for the tower crane operation.

The client was awarding a 15 day EoT (no cost) for excessive wind speed.

I was able to demonstrate that the actual days lost to high wind was less than what could have been anticipted at the time of contract.

To calculate the anticipated weather I collected the last 5 years of weather records and analysed the number of days where the wind exceeded 30 mph and the average number of days when workdays were affected for each month.

These averages were put into the weather calendar as a random pattern of Non-Work days.

Therefore with no EoT due to weather all the EoT fell into the cost band.

Best regards

Mike Testro

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Mike

By adding to the duration of an activity affected by weather you are not recreating the effect of a work stoppage. – Agree.

If there are resources attached to the task they would increase by the extended period when they should be in Stand Down mode. – Agree.

Also you will have to adjust every activity that straddles the weather days. – Agree.

A weather calendar recreates what actually happened to every activity affected – Agree.

Most contracts require the contractor to allow for anticipated weather and only award an EoT for exceptional weather – Is a fact.

By placing the anticipated weather where you anticipate it to happen you are creating a realistic programme which will be adjusted as and when the actual weather pattern is experienced. – Agree and don’t agree, I still have some conflicting thought about this.

"When weather days occur, and are approved as such ..." With regard to this requirement I would add that by only allowing you to show approved weather delays prevent you to record and show the impact of other weather delays that might not qualify for EOT but definitively had an impact on the schedule, maybe even on TIAs to be applied in sequential order, this is in abominable error.

This is a sample specs I mostly disagree with, but we have to deal with the contractual requirements. I was hoping precisely for the critical comments of PP members.

Best regards,
Rafael
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Hi Anoon

Insurance companies employ delay analysts to settle claims when projects are delayed by insurable risks.

So they do have an interest in such topics.

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Hi Rafael

By adding to the duration of an activity affected by weather you are not recreating the effect of a work stoppage.

If there are resources attached to the task they would increase by the extended period when they should be in Stand Down mode.

Also you will have to adjust every activity that straddles the weather days.

A weather calendar recreates what actually happened to every activity affected.

Most contracts require the contractor to allow for anticipated weather and only award an EoT for exceptional weather.

By placing the anticipated weather where you anticipate it to happen you are creating a realistic programme which will be adjusted as and when the actual weather pattern is experienced.

Best regards

Mike Testro

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Dear All,

How do you think "insurance companies" consider TIA; EOT; Buffers... etc.?

cheers!
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Mike,

I have seen other approaches, the most common to use a visible Weather Allowance or Buffer at the end of the schedule, otherwise you will be artificially delaying some activities when no rain has happened yet, and your schedule might show no work for these days, this is misleading.

The following is a sample specification for these purposes; obviously you must adapt the reduction rules as per your contract terms. Some do provide for a carry over for unused rain days while others do not.


WEATHER CONDITIONS

Seasonal weather conditions shall be considered in the planning and scheduling of work influenced by high or low ambient temperatures or precipitation to ensure the completion of the Work within the Contract Time. No time extensions will be granted for the Contractor’s failure to take into account such weather conditions for the location of the Work and for the period of time in which the Work is to be accomplished. The expected loss of working days specified in the Supplementary Conditions, WEATHER DAYS, shall be included in a separate identifiable critical activity labeled "Weather Days Allowance" to be included at the end of the project schedule.

When weather days occur, and are approved as such by the Construction Manager, the Contractor shall either:
a. Increase the duration of the current critical activity(ies) by the number of weather days experienced, or
b. Add a critical activity to the schedule to reflect the occurrence of the weather day(s).

The duration of the weather day allowance activity shall be reduced as weather days are experienced and included in the schedule. Any remaining weather days in the weather day allowance activity at the completion of the project shall be considered as float and shall not be for the exclusive use or benefit of either the City or Contractor.

Although I believe satisfactory the use of a buffer at the end of the job I still prefer the use of calendars to record all weather delays as they occur no matter if an EOT is applicable or not. For an EOT due to weather you would apply the rules of the contract as a TIA might not accurately represent these rules.

Lawrence,

The above specification is similar to others I have seen in US Federal Government jobs.

Best regards,
Rafael
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Hi Lawrence

Construction work that is subject to weather delays should be put on a "Weather Calendar" which forecasts the expected downtime as "Holidays".

As work progresses the weather forecast is changed to the actual weather stoppages thus demonstrating the true delay impact of weather stoppages.

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Hi Shahul,

Yes your model would be acceptable if the impact stopped all the work at site.

Lawrence,
FIDIC conditions of contract is used mostly in this part of the world. The definition of force major is clearly stated. The current standard has been in place for the past 10 years. It will change with the next edition next year. On the other hand, claiming for weather can be done by comparing the national average during a specific period of time over the past many years. It is not an easy claim, but like you said, if storm hits and closes the city for few days, then the contactor can use the public official information as basis for his claim.

With kind regards,

Samer
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In my experience, allowances for "bad" weather should already be built into the schedule that the Contractor submits. For example, many of my projects involve wiring of electrical components outside, during the winter, in New York City. If a Contractor claims that he couldn’t finish a critical path activity because it was "too cold", I would tell him his claim has no merit. Of course, if there was a blizzard that lasted one week (not the norm) that prevented him from performing that same work, then MAYBE he could claim a "force majure" incident and be entitled to some time.
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ok Samer ,
in this case is the following way of modeling delay fragnet is correct

001 Impact of delay event 0 days 1jan09{ES}


002 Excavation 365 days 2jan09 {ES} 1jan10 { EF }
then act id 002 is then linked to its dependent successors
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Dear Shahul,

Lets assume that you started excavation and found ruins under the dirt. Ofcourse you will stop for a year or so. This is totally unforeseen event that has a major hold effect on the project.

Of if you started excavation for 3 basements and the walls around the excavation collapsed, you will need 1 year for picking the collapsed soil and start again.

The duration of the event will be added as a delay event (activity by itself) to the project.

With kind regards,

Samer
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I would like to invitie all to pay attention further more in this thread

I saw a TIA programme from a consultant it showed a delay event start date 18 may08 & finish date 22 April 09 {339 calender days}
impacted on the programme date date 17 may09 {Updated programme)& projected the delays associated with delay event

Is this way of doing is correct ?
Do delay delay event have such a long duration?
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Dear Shahul,

If you are granted extra days by the authorities, then what we do is to change the completion date to the new date.

With kind regards,

Samer

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Shahul

The best way to model bad weather is to use the activity calendars and adjust rain days as non-working days (Easier said than done). Beware that some activities such as long lead deliveries might not be impacted by the local weather, these shall be assigned a calendar that is not impacted by weather.

Don’t forget to model the contract rules for weather delays, usually some allowance is made and you cannot recover all rain days, these were supposed to be taken into account in your plans. If you post your contract rules the response by others will be very interesting, I would like to hear and learn from others.

Here the most common rule is that you should account for a couple of rain days a month, and in order to qualify a rain day you must have been in need to stop at least 50% of your daily activities for half a day. At the end of the month you compute all rain days, deduct the monthly allowance and finally convert the result into work days by multiplying this number by 7/5 and round off to the nearest whole number. In this formula holiday’s effect is lost to the advantage of the owner. Under these rules 2 rain days over the allowance means 3 calendar days EOT.

Rain days got to be modeled otherwise your TIA might be in error. Suppose the Owner delays five work days a critical activity during the current week and it rains 3 days during the current week. You are entitled to an extension of time for 3 rain days and 2 for the Owner’s delay and perhaps 2 for the weekend as to convert work days into calendar days, you cannot claim 3 rain days and in addition 5 days for the Owner’s delay and two for the week-end, this might happen s if you do not include all prior delays in your TIA, it is not only Owner and Contractor’s, you got to include all delays, weather, acts of gods, strikes, and others that don’t came to my mind at this moment.

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Any other solution to the below probelm please address it?
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In TIA if project got delayed by a 2 days due to bad weather please advise me the delay event is to be linked to which activities in the construction WBS?
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Thanks for your support Mr.Rafael
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Hi Shahul

1. Is the delay in payment could be shown in the programme?
Only if the late cash flow did cause any delay in work progress.

2. Delay in unproductive work force & handing over is our fault
Yes if your bad management caused the unproductive work and a delay was caused - It has to be put in the TIA anyway so that concurrency can be calculated.

3. Delay due to no access could be shown in programme using TIA methood
Yes a single bar going from when access was required to when it was granted and linked to the 1st activity after access.

One bit of advice - if you are the contractor give the Client’s delay bar a bright scarlet colour and the contractor’s delay bar a light blue.

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Mike Testro.
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1. Is the delay in payment could be shown in the programme?
2. Delay in unproductive work force & handing over is our fault
3. Delay due to no access could be shown in programme using TIA methood
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Dear Mervilyne,

If you have them as very distinct beginning and end, then you can add them as an activity between the activities that you already had before the delay.

Then you can see the effect of this delay on your overall program of works.

This thread is going to be enjoyed by many.

With kind regards,

Samer
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Shahul

Delay in payments is measured against your billings due date. After your billings if not paid in time you might be entitled to receive some interest accrued from payment due date. You can show an activity for each Billing due date as you issue them and report actual payment in the update actual dates. This to keep a record and a reminder to the Owner payments are being received after due date.

We usually don’t do that unless as per Mike’s response the late payment delays your work and instead of a Claim for late Payment it becomes also a Delay Claim. I never had such an issue, we have many late payments but never had a justifiable Delay Claim as the result of the late payment.

The following links might be of interest to you:

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/549155-suspension-of-works#continueArticle
http://www.alway-associates.co.uk/legal-update/article.asp?id=21
http://www.brewerconsulting.co.uk/cases/CJ0322RR.htm

In the US Statutory Prompt Payment legislation has been adopted only in half of the 50 states and its territories. Federal Contracts are subject to a Prompt Payment Act but in Puerto Rico we have no such legislation.

http://www.blankrome.com/siteFiles/Publications/322F491B339AC38CADE2DD94...

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Rafael