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Sun, 2010-04-11 07:52
min joon sung
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hi all,
i wonder if you have some ready made road schedule in primavera as a reference in preparing my construction schedule.
activities includes the following:
site clearance, cut & fill, stormwater, Curbs, elect. road crossing & street lighting, interlocking tiles, asphalt works, short term detours & traffic controls....

this is very urgent. i want it in P3 format.
if you do, email it - to please use the privte message service -thanks
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Mon, 2010-04-12 05:26
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Samer Zawaydeh
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Dear Min,

It would be interesting to deliver the advice that you want. So here is my reply:

1. The markings that you are talking about are Survey marking. This is usually done by a crew of 2-3 people. The area that they can cover depends on how smooth/ slope is. But I would say that you can cover 2000-4000m2/day.

2. The lighting poles that you descibe can vary in height between 8-50 meters. So you need to be more specific. The poles need a foundation with Anchor Bolts, and the Pole is usually installed with a mobile crane. The rate depends on the area and the preparation available.

So you need to visit the site, and ask your construction crew these questions as well.

With kind regards,

Samer
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Sun, 2010-04-11 18:14
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Rafael Davila
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min joon

Consider markings as an activity parallel to earthworks (incidental) with duration determined by the duration of earthworks and any other work that require such markings. This can be modeled with a Hammock activity. It will be a continuous operation in roadworks, not necessarily in other type of construction where it can be intermittent; in road works you need the crew available at any time. The surveying crew will continuously be replacing the markings and with today surveying equipment they should not interfere with the progress of earthworks, if they do send them to the guillotine.

Best regards,
Rafael
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Sun, 2010-04-11 14:42
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Mike Testro
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Hi Min Joon Sung

Sorry but you are in a world of your own.

The advice that you are requesting has no relevance to any road construction project.

Ask your superior in the team and then put it in the schedule if you can.

Meanwhile follow my maxim - If you can’t build it you can’t plan it.

Best regards

Mike Testro.
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Sun, 2010-04-11 12:53
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min joon sung
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actually not looking for a software
my bad..sorry

The things that i am looking for are the PRODUCTION RATE

especially looking for the production rate of

1. markings for the road work
(not the road line marks and traffic lines. the markings that shows where to excavate, etc)

2. road lighting works
specifically, the street lights that will be erected at the side of the road at 25m centres (poles, 5.5mm2 armored cable laid underground in conduit)
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Sun, 2010-04-11 10:10
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Mike Testro
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Hi Min Joon Sung

The best form of software for this type of linear project is either Vico or Tylos.

Otherwise you have to split your barchart into manageable chainage slots - preferabble cut chainage and fill chainage

Within each chainage band the following is a typical sequence:

Strip topsoil to storage
Cut - haul to fill
Fill compaction - either using excavated acceptable or imported material.
Under alignment drainage - using arisings for fill.
Cut to formation
Lay sub base and compact
Cut and lay kerbs
Construct alignment manholes
Lay base tarmac and wearing course
Excavate pavement service trenches and lay cables
Erect lighting and signage
Spread stored topsoil and planting
Lay pavement cover
Lay road final cover
Clean and clear.

You will find discussions on productivity rates for cut and fill in this forum when you search on "average mass haul" or M4

Best regards

Mike Testro

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