Greetings for all
I think the best to follow up the up date by applying the information to the base line and to compare the resulte to the submitted updated schedule if there are any difference between the base line result and the submitted one the consultant have the power to let the contractor to clarify the different result
regards,

When performing TIA, would you not apply progress & notified changes to baseline? If so, un-notified changes would have no impact on the assesment?

Regards,

Gary

Gary:

I agree it is short-sighted, eventually most probably will backfire. But unfortunately some Contractors will do it as not all inspectors and owner’s reps are expert at CPM scheduling, if they perceive so maybe they will take the chance the job do not ends in court and eventually on the hands of forensic experts.

The Owner will expect the inspector and his rep. will raise the flag as soon it happens, otherwise he might believe them negligent and short of due care. Here a good utility will be of value.

In occasions while looking to solve issues on out-of-sequence the Contractor might even lose track of your own changes and forget to disclose. Here a good utility will be of value.

Arnold,

Thanks, your option, as well as Digger within P6 is not equivalent to the original Digger for P3, it is not an acceptable option for me. It seems that everything touched by the P6 developers gets rotten.

I will keep looking elsewhere.

Albert,

Follow the link and do a search on “claim digger”, “project management”, “ cpm scheduling”, "P6" ... maybe you will get lucky and find a few technical references. On the internet you will find a few interesting file sharing / hosting services for free. Just make a good use of these.

http://www.4shared.com/

Some files are in .rar file types for these you can download the free utility IZArc from their site.

http://www.izarc.org/index.html

Hi Albert

For a 10,000 activities I don’t think so.. you would really need a digger to do the job easily, and the contractor is responsible to let the client know of his changes in order to expedite and/or do the job especially if those areas of concern would involve the client...

You are welcome.

Hi Rafael,

Please follow the link:

http://knowledgebase.primavera.com/attachment/PATTLNK_632006_536-xerFile...

Albert,

We have a copy of P3 Claim Digger with Serial No. but I cannot give you because this is copyright materials owned by the company. Sorry for that.

Try to check at http://knowledgebase.primavera.com/

Regards,

Arnold

For P3, P4/P6
http://scheduleanalyzer.com/sa_brochure.htm
For MS Project the following also provides a schedule comparison tool.
http://www.steelray.com/spa.php

Do any of you have these tools?
How they work?
I believe they should be better than the comparison tools supplied within the software.

Please note that while Claim Digger can handle Changes of Activity Relationships not necessarily Changes in Resources and Calendar Details when comparing differen versions (not baselines) of the same job.

I would have some reserves about the claims by the software vendors themselves the same way I would about the Contractor disclosing everything even under oath. I am law abiding, but in no way naïve. As a contractor those tools would be useful when making changes to the schedule specially when solving issues for out-of-sequence. Good to know, sure I won’t tell the Owner’s rep. I do have these tools, it is his responsibility to make sure we don’t cheat .................(law abiding, are you sure?).

Hi Gary,

That’s great idea..We need to follow the baseline programme without changing the logic of the update....etc.

Regards,

Arnold

Arnold,

I do have MS Project but rarely use it; maybe I can figure it out if no response for this particular issue is posted.

Since I don’t have P6 I appreciate your response. I understood from your response that within P6 you can only compare jobs within a single database, this is not necessarily an issue, but I still have some questions about how to audit submitted files to make sure no unforeseen changes are introduced.

Suppose for a single job you have the monthly update for month no 6 and for month no 7 and you want to compare both files to make sure no hidden changes were made; to work hours, to calendar days, to resources and so on. I need to compare not only the baseline fields but logic, calendars and resources files. I believe that by naming differently the job versions you can load them to your database and compare one against each other but when you compare calendars and resources as well as other fields the report will tell you all are different. What if you compare two jobs exactly equal, the same version different name? The report should disclose there are no differences.

Sorry it is very difficult for me to express myself but all I got is memories from P3e various years ago plus some literature on P6. Because you are a P3 and Digger for P3 user having access to P6 you can make the comparison I am not able to do. To me it is of particular importance because as a Contractor if I know in no easy way the Owner will notice this could give me an advantage, it is good to know. Maybe I will even switch to P6, in this way most probably he will never know.

Arnold,

With Digger in P3 you can pinpoint variations in workdays within each calendar. Can you do that within P6 and MS Project comparison tools?

With Digger in P3 you can compare updates beteween databases as each P3 Job is in a separate database. Can you do that within P6 and MS Project?

In P6, can the software pinpoint differences in your resources among different updates without getting confused and identifying all as different? Seems to me Claim Digger within P6 is strong at comparing baselines but not for comparing update file submissions.

These are questions that have been in my mind for a while; I would appreciate feedback from those knowledgeable of P6 and MS Project.