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How do you interpret the wording of these different day count milestones?

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John Reeves
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If "days count milestones" are phrased differently, how do you interpret:
Submit within five (5) calendar days after NTP0" vs these others. = Start count day "After" ntp?
Submit within 5 calendar days of the NTP0 date. = Start count the day of NTP?
Within 5 calendar days after proceed date in issuance of LNTP. = Start count day "After" ntp?
If it sais to start count at NTP0, but a LNTP is issued (with the next being 1) = are they the same thing and do they have to start the count no matter what it is called?

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Rodel Marasigan
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If you used Finished Milestone instead of Start Milestone, it will not give extra day on the roll up. It is also a good practice having a WBS NTP Milestone and a separate WBS Stage/ Phase with start milestone.

John Reeves
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OK, I agree with both of your interpretations.  Doesn't this give your roll up bars and extra day? Don't you have to have two start milestones then, I do, and I have to put the NTP in a different WBS to keep it from rolling up and adding the day to summary bars - you don't want to have explain in meetings why it is wrong.  I am seeing it more, but it is in-consistent.

John Reeves
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OK, I agree with both of your interpretations.  Doesn't this give your roll up bars and extra day? Don't you have to have two start milestones then, I do, and I have to put the NTP in a different WBS to keep it from rolling up and adding the day to summary bars - you don't want to have explain in meetings why it is wrong.  I am seeing it more, but it is in-consistent.

Zoltan Palffy
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5 days after NTP to me should not count the date of the issuance of NTP. What if the issuance is at 5:00 pm the day is already over you really can do anything on that day. 

Rodel Marasigan
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Typical contract always stated “NTP +” therefore after NTP. If the contract states NTP0 meaning day 0 is NTP and day 1 is after NTP. I have not encountered a contract that NTP is counted as day 1 because it is debatable especially the timing when the NTP was serve.

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