Precisely that is where I do not agree with you, it is not necessarily an issue to be limited by calendars.

As your attitude is to call me out of this topic I will call me out of PP, you are the Moderator, and you establish the rules.

Mike,

I would start precisely where you started, with the calendars work days, 90% it would end there, 10% it should be expanded to mimic other real life situations within the limits of CPM. Maybe I would not follow the owners request and insert a Work Stoppage Activity "working" under a Work Stoppage Calendar, so that it shows, of course there are other ways but I like the idea of breaking the rule that All Activites were stopped.

I believe the very first step for a scheduler to prepare a claim is to listen carefully to the jobsite supervisors, by assuming it is just a 90% event he might miss some relevant issues.

I have not found another place where discussion is so open minded, I got to 100% accept your explanation; I was not expecting less, yes keep challenging us.

I thought it was not rubbish, just a bucket of cold water.

By the way it is nitrogen for an MRI machine to keep the superconductor functioning, for pipe purging should be hydrogen, argon or other specialty gas. I just noticed I inverted the references in my prior posting.

Mike Testro,

I believe the statement that a work stoppage is exactly the same as a non workday holiday is farsighted.

You are ruling out the effect this might have in the total job duration when the stoppage impacts the schedule by other means. Yes even through delivery activities, can you believe it?

My wife, who doesn’t know what a CPM schedule is, knows. She does scheduling with other tools that fit best her needs. As a Supply and Distribution Manager (now a Distribution Chain Manager, a term that seems to be in fashion) often she is faced with the fact that clients by delaying their orders by a single minute might impact the delivery by a week.

If a client needs helium for their MRI machine in such a hurry they cannot wait for the next week, because the shipping ports in mainland USA do not send a barge every other minute, she would have to coordinate the shipment to be by air, believe me after 911 it is an issue within a US jurisdiction. A similar situation might occur when a pharmaceutical needs nitrogen in a hurry to purge some pipelines. These are expensive gases you cannot store for long, these got to be produced, some locally others in the mainland, and distributed within a limited period of time.

Yes, everywhere you can find examples where delaying/stopping an activity for a short period of time might have an impact greater that the delay/stoppage.

Young people even when realizing a moderator statement is wrong they might feel intimidated, they would rather avoid discussing in public their dissent. As a moderator your expressions might be interpreted by many as correct, maybe moderators should abstain from commenting and limit themselves to keep order.

khawaja,

First define the root cause of the stoppage event. after defining and you concluded that the event is beyond the contractors hand and does affect the critical path, send a correspndence to the client and inform them that the work stoppage has an incured delay and cost implications.

Just a thought.

Mr. Mike,

I do understand that setting a two day stoppage into a nonworking days will invalidated cost implications. Correct me with this if Im wrong, and please further elaborate of why putting as a nonworking days.

Cheers,

bill d.

Mike,

How much do you normally charge for that simple advice.

Cheers..

khawaja,

just for clarification before i submit my thoughs, is the entire site operation been totally stop by client or only selected work packages has been picked.

Cheers,

bill d.