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I don't understand this Dilbert Cartoon - please explain

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John Reeves
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I don’t understand this Dilbert cartoon please explain.

(And yes I could have put it in a different section than P6, but I am putting it here in protest of the hassles created by connecting two activities with different calendars.  They need need a sponge activity between them to fix the "time of day" ripple hassles.)

worker “And we finished ahead of schedule”
Dilbert: “Question”
Dilbert: “Are you referring to the original schedule or the Eight Revision?
worker: “Schedules can change”
Dilbert: “That would be called a “Calendar”.

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Zoltan Palffy
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its is much hareder to hit a moving target 

Renee Teng
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If you constantly change your schedule, that doesn't mean anything at all. It simply lists what you do daily, so it is more like a calendar.

This is what I got from the conversation.

Alex Lyaschenko
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I am actually using this Dilbert cartoon in my 1st slide when implement a schedule maturity assessment for my clients with a question “Do we actually need a schedule”?

1. Many PMs can't understand why they need to a plan for their project if it likely to change anyway. Often they are process (not result) oriented and believes that good process will lead the best result.  

2. Many organisations have strong project governance control and lower level of project performance. Typically, they play “PCR (Project Change Control)” game. In these organisations in 95% cases standart way to recover projects from red/amber status is to raise PCR and rebaseline schedule.

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Regarding Construction Projects :

  • Change Order Causation; Who is the Guilty Party?
  • Of the changes included in the study a review of the project record data showed more than 52% were caused by plans and/or specification errors and omissions, 32% were owner directed changes, and 9% resulted from unforeseen/existing conditions. The occurrences of the remaining causations sharply drop off in the order of value engineering, acceleration/delay, and force majeure (see table 1).
  • Dilbert cartoon just mocks the delay and does not provide any practical advise, he is a looser.
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Yes perhaps - could have had many scope changes alspo, but are they saying a schedule just becomes a "to do" calendar when you change the dates enough. Its all pretty silly.  - Rafael was so patient and polite in explaining I should have posted this in a more appropriate section - the Trivia section, that I will like continue this there at some point.

Santosh Bhat
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John, its obvious, Re-baselining to hide poor performance. 

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I got it about the comic strip, known for its satirical office humor featuring engineer Dilbert as the title character.  Maybe your people are not interested, it is not necessarily they are not capable to understand.  I would not blame them, not everyone is hooked on sarcastic strips.  I  would never pay to post the strip image and rather post the hyperlink for free. 

By the way this forum is for Planning, Scheduling and Programming Discussion, here trivia is a distraction.  For P6 there is Oracle Primavera PM-6.  For trivia there is the Trivia & Non Planning Discussion, here trivia is welcomed as well as your interpretation.

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Rafael

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Here is a link

https://dilbert.com/search_results?terms=%22called+a+calendar%22

Rafeal - how did you post that graphic - this sais that I posted the cartoon but it does not show up.  ...You guys are the kings, true assets to the scheduling world.  2696 and 4865 posts respectively. BUT you guys are both way off on this one.  DILBERT IS A HUMOR CARTOON in the US.  I paid the Dilbert site to post this for you.  I respect IP rights but I think i could have posted this under the "review" and "parody" aspects.  I put this in the P6 section because that is the only section I look at, I assume others also.  Now I am worried about "my people" to understand a Dilbert (parody aspect)- I think the AEC world has beaten the humor out of you.  I did have a slight typo that made it harder to understand - but this was not a question that would warrent a technical answer - more philosophical answer.  And to be safe I paid for this cartoon for this use.  I think the attempt at humor comes from the angle that after you have changed your schedule 8 times, lets say in a month, than your not really "scheduling" anything anymore but picking dates from a calendar when things might happen.  

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You guys are the kings, true assets to the scheduling world.  2696 and 4865 posts respectively. BUT you guys are both way off on this one.  DILBERT IS A HUMOR CARTOON in the US.  I paid the Dilbert site to post this for you.  I respect IP rights but I think i could have posted this under the "review" and "parody" aspects.  I put this in the P6 section because that is the only section I look at, I assume others also.  Now I am worried about "my people" to understand a Dilbert (parody aspect)- I think the AEC world has beaten the humor out of you.  I did have a slight typo that made it harder to understand - but this was not a question that would warrent a technical answer - more philosophical answer.  And to be safe I paid for this cartoon for this use.  I think the attempt at humor comes from the angle that after you have changed your schedule 8 times, lets say in a month, than your not really "scheduling" anything anymore but picking dates from a calendar when things might happen.  

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you can change a calendar and work 7 days a week instead of 5 and recover time. 

Rafael Davila
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  • This is a different section than P6 where your protest shall also be posted.
  • Please be reminded that not all software have such calendar issues.
  • Some schedulers do not understand that multiple calendars can make the critical path to be broken into several non-contiguous segments and tweak the schedule to force the critical path to be contiguous.  This is float sequestration, it is not good practice and is prohibited by most scheduling specifications.
  • Multiple-Calendars02
  • The “Longest Path” algorithm is widely believed to reliably identify the critical path for schedules with multiple calendars.  However available literature on the WEB claim P6 does not always correctly identify “Float” or the “Longest Path”.  Oracle acknowledges “P6 Longest Path” is broken when activities are no longer driven by relationships; that is, when activity dates are driven by constraints or resource leveling.