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"Performance % Complete" & "Earn Labor Unit"

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Tue, 2008-09-23 13:08
Ross Yu
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Gent,

We use P5 for our projects.

I have inherited a schedule which has the problem of not calculating the “Earn Labor Unit”.

The following are observed …
(1) “Performance % Complete” are all 0%.
(2) “Activity % Complete Type” are all set at “Physical % Complete”.
(3) Technique for Computing Performance % Complete is not “checked”
(4) “Duration Type” are set as “Fixed Duration and Units”
(5) Each activity has a resource assignment and each resource has a budgeted man-hour.
(6) No Baseline Schedule is attached to this schedule, therefore, the “Project Baseline” and “Primary Baseline” are all set as the “Current Project”.

I have tried the following …

(1) In the WBS, “Earn Value” tab, checked the “Technique for Computing Performance % Complete” to equal to “Activity % Complete”.

(2) I then updated the “Physical % Complete” of some activities. However, the “Performance % Complete” for each individual activity was not updated to its “Activity % Complete” as a result. ( I can see that from listing the columns.)

If I close the schedule and reopen it again, the setting in the WBS, “Earn Value” tab remained. However, if I log off from Primavera all together, and then sign in again and open the schedule in question, the setting in WBS, “Earn Value” tab were not saved – ie., it is now shown as "None checked off".

I have other schedules in used for other projects and I have not encountered the same problem.

It seems that the “Technique for Computing Performance % Complete” keeps resetting itself to blank (after log-off and re-log-in) is at least part of the problem.
However, I can’t find where I can fix this “resetting” problem.

I also tried deleting all activities and re-enter new ones. Same result.

Am I missing something here ? Any idea ??

Thx.
Ross

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Thu, 2008-10-09 02:10
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Patricia Le Clainche
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Hello Ross,

And sorry for late reply... life is not always simple, and we only have 24hours/days.

Regarding your project,
1- In PROJECT view, create a new Project by "Add" under the appropriate EPS level (where you already have your original project) ; change the project IDs (the original one in OLD for ex. and give to the new one the correct Project ID.
2- For this new project (still umpty), change the Planned Date and Data Date ; these two dates should be the same as for the original project.
3- Open both of them
4- In WBS view, select all WBS elements of the original project, and do a Cut/Paste in the new one. That permits not to loose links you could have with other projects.
5- You can then select EV Technics for each WBS elements (and check also ETC Calculation ; during MSP transfer, we encounter same problems for this field as well).
6- Do not forget then to transfer baselines that you have on the original project under the new one.

That should work then.... Good Luck.
Patricia


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Tue, 2008-10-07 00:25
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Arnold Puy
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Hi Ross,

I am talking about price/unit should not equal to zero because I’m thinking that your problem is about the performance % complete doesn’t roll up in the summary. Now I know your problem is about the Earned Value Labor Units. Okey..

Did you update your schedule to the New Data Date and put some percentage in your Performance % Complete?

Try to check your Project Detail under Calculation Tab, mark the checkbox next to "Recalculate Actual Units and Cost when duration % complete changes". Make sure also that your Duration Type must be "Fixed Duration & Units".

Or maybe you can send me snapshot to my email p3-fer@sixco.ae

Arnold
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Mon, 2008-10-06 09:40
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Ross Yu
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Hi Arnold,

To test the sugegstion, I made a copy of the schedule and deleted everything but two activities. Removed any base line schedule reference, so there is only the "Current schedule" to deal with.

I checked the resources Price/Unit from the "resources" tab. Using two different resources, and both are set to 1.0CA$/h effective 01-Jan-2007

Then recalculated assignment cost from Tool menu to update.

The "Earn Value labor Units" still shown 0 hrs after this exercise.

Ross



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Mon, 2008-10-06 08:28
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Arnold Puy
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Hi Ross,

Make sure that all Resources Price/Unit is not equal to Zero, for BOTH Current & Baseline Programme (if there is). Otherwise, the problem still remain unsolve.

HTH.

Arnold
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Mon, 2008-10-06 07:35
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Ross Yu
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Hi, Arnold,

Soory for taking so long to reply.

I checked this patricular schedule’s setting again. The price/unit is already set to 1.0.

Still no difference to the problem on hand.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Ross
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Thu, 2008-10-02 07:36
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Arnold Puy
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Hi Ross,

Performance % complete is related to money. Even though you have allocated the resources to each activities with Budgeted Labor Quantity without setting the price/unit.

In order to have the value in performance % complete not equal to zero during progress try to set the price/unit equal to 1 or whatever.

Just try this and see what happen.

HTH.

Arnold
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Thu, 2008-10-02 04:34
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Ramon Buado
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Did it work?
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Tue, 2008-09-23 14:59
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Ross Yu
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Hi Pat,

Thanks very much for your suggestion. I just checked with the sub-C who first set up that schedule.

You are right on!! It was first created in MSP and then imported to P5.

Ross.

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Tue, 2008-09-23 14:19
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Patricia Le Clainche
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Hello Ross,

Regarding this specific project that causes troubles with EV Technics, is it a project that you created directly in Primavera, or did you make a transfer from MS Project ?

We encounter this problem => EV technic and also ETC calculation formula that you cannot select when the original project was imported from MSP.

The way in that case is to create a new head of project, to transfer all the WBS elements under this new one, and then also the existing baselines.

Good luck.
Patricia
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