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Using pertmaster to assess cost savings

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Sun, 2009-05-03 12:08
Neil Brady
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I have been asked to model some cost savings, and I am struggling to think about how to model the answers, so was wondering if anyone could help.

For example
Cost Saving

Cost Saving 1
£974,000 min
£1,640,000 mean
£1,949,000 max

Cost Saving 2
£880,000 min
£880,000 mean
£1,208,000 max

Cost Saving 3
£546,000 min
£780,000mean
£819,000 max


How would I go about modelling this? I am thinking its almost the opposite of a normal simple cost risk as really you want the probability of a potential extra saving.

Does this mean that I should input them as negative costs?

Struggling with this one, as if I plug it in as normal I get a 99% chance of 3300000, P80 of say 3000000 as an example, which is kind of meaningless ? I have a 99% chance of reaching my saving, when really I need to know what the chances are of saving more (Or less)

Any help you can give as always greatly appreciated!!!!

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Wed, 2009-05-06 09:03
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Neil Brady
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Hi

Many thanks for the reply.

The problem was a missing piece of the puizzle.

When you try and visualise cost savings, the maximum cost saving is actually the minimum cost. What I didnt have was the original cost of the activity that the savings were based on. Once I had this i was able to extrapolate the minimum, most likely and maximum costs, allowing them to be plugged in to pertmaster as normal.

Cheers!

Neil
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Wed, 2009-05-06 07:55
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Safak Vural
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Dear Neil,

If you have the constraints about the "cost savings" and the situation as you mentioned. You can use solver add-in of excel (it is a numerical method). You can find solver add-in from. Tools-Add-Ins (click solver then OK:). Then Tools--solver.

Then at a empty sheet formulize all of the savings and total savings just for one case (Lets say, 100 for CS1, 200 for CS2 and 150 for CS 3). Formulate the total saving. Then write the constraints. (Amount of materials or just management tendancy, you can use some KPI’s). Then open the solver Tools solver.

Target cell (Total savings)
Maximize (or others!!)
By Changing cells (the qtys or % of Cost savings)
Constraints
Then ok.

You will have the maximized cost saving in your calculation sheet. And you can have detailed reprots of the analysis also.

I read my thread again.A little bit confusing(!). If you have any problems mail me with details and I can reply with a example.

safakv@gmail.com

Best Regards,

Safak
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Tue, 2009-05-05 14:31
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Gary Whitehead
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I don’t think Monte Carlo is the right software package for this. It sounds like a standard binomial distribution probability problem.
Excel has the functionality you need, as I recall. And I’m sure wikipedia can give you the theory.
I’d explain it here, but my stats was always appalling, so i need to look up the formulaes each time i use them.
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