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Project Management Thought

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Charleston-Joseph...
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Hi guys

Which Project Management Thought is effective in construction environment (EPC contract, Construction Contract, etc.)

a.) Project Management Institute (PMI)
b.) Prince
c.) Six Sigma
d.) Spider
e.) Method 123
f.) Traditional
g.) Project Manger’s Instinct
i.) New discovery (your own approach)
h.) Others, please specify

Which one do you think and why?

Cheers,
Charlie

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Oscar Wilde
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Philip
I have found a way round the moderators
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It was Charlie
Where is Charlie
He will lose the number one spot soon and Philip will become the most valuable planner
Charlie come back from leave and go back to work we miss u
Oscar
Darrell ODea
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Whats that thing called? You know when you abbreviate something, oh yes, abbreviation.

Project Management Thought (PMT).
Who started this discussion string initally?
Maybe they are trying to tell us something?

Just a thought.....
Oscar Wilde
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Sorry Darrell

I was getting too serious you are correct

Maybe Project management thought is did that bomber really land on the moon?

OR IS THAT PM THOUGHT

and do pms think or just gather others thoughts and talk about them

Oh dear
Darrell ODea
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Come on Oscar, its never that complex?

More like - I must finish me tea.
or - I must finish this game of solitare.
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Project management thought
I must finish on time
I must finish to budget
I must listen to my planning engineer
I must add value
I must be a good manager

Oscar
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Gents

I agreed that software and methodology is only a tools. People is the "management" that is what make us different from animal because we can use tools.

However, to be a good project manager / planner or any occupation, you need a set of right tools to do the job. I am still learning how to become a good PM with new tools I learn each day to assist me.

Just a example, years ago the carpenter do not have a laser guide electric saw, or laser measurement. Yes they completed the job required. However, they may not as competitive and effective if they still use their old tools in today’s world.

My point is we "everyone" lives in a competitive environment and that requires us to become a knowledge seeker, seeking for better ways of doing things, better tool to do our job. Yes we do have our choice of not seeking, its our freedom of choice.

Some of my workmate look at me as a Prima Donna. Because I always try to automate task that can be achieve by computer. That spares me time to think, and surf the web for knowledge seeeeeking…

And I totally agree that site knowledge will benefit the planning scheduleing and project manage.

Just a though!

Alex
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Just as important, is the gossip.
I’ve worked within a Project where I’ve been surrounded by the Project Team, and I’m currently working in a Project Management Office environment where I’m 170 Miles away from the guys.
It’s amazing how much more information can be gleaned, almost by osmosis, through being in day to day contact with the team.
Also the quality of information you do get is generally of a far higher quality, because in having casual day to day interactions with the guys, you learn to read between the lines of what they are saying (often about each other).
I miss being ’on site’, but not enough to make me want to work 170 miles away from my new baby.... sometimes working remotely has it’s advantages :o)
Have a nice day all
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True, their is the crack.
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The craek (SP)
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Like everything that the project supervision/team either forgets, neglects or isn’t aware of.

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Like what?
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Darrell, virtual planning will only work when you can communicate effectively with the on-site team (it’s a two way street). In my experience, you miss a lot when you are not on-site.

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If the project is simple then hands off is best
if it requires barking then the management is best from the PM not the software
i also would like to be in the pub not the site
and if robots can do the planning and the work i for one wont be a luddite
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Charlie
Do you belive P3 or for that matter any software is Project management
or are people the Project managers
people ie the person with Project manager on his door
not software jockey sorry planner
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Oscar,

I for one believe, Project Management is a tool, or set of tools, or lots of tools. It is the software and it is the people. It can in my mind be either or both. Have managed many a project, without ever having to see it in real life.
Still it made money and was finished on time. Using digital reporting, cameras, pictures, people and contractor reports.

Might I suggest, that there is really no need to actually get ones hands dirty, as a planner. Am looking forward to the day when no human labour need be employed on a building site. They are very dangerous, dusty & noisy places generally.

Wood ye not concurr? This is my own views only.

All the best,
Darrell
Charleston-Joseph...
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Hi Sunil,

I agree with you.

But how about the other project management school of thinking.

It seem that this project management school of thinking is only a framework. A framework for what?

It seems impossible to go by the book. Being bookish is a disadvantage in actual practice.

IMHO

Regards
Sunil Kumar
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Simple, your own experience and common sense.


Cheers
Sunil