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Correct Defination of Level 1,2,3,4 in P3

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Thu, 2007-07-19 06:06
Vijayendra Surve
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Sir,
wht is correct defination of levels we mention in contract wht is scope & wht it says...
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Thu, 2007-07-19 08:00
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Oliver Melling
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And this time with spelling that is slightly better.......

Vijayendra,

Try looking on the Planning Engineers Organisation website.

A paper written by Gary France states what should be included in the different levels of a programme.

Regards,

Oliver
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Thu, 2007-07-19 07:59
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Oliver Melling
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Vijayendra,

Try looking on the Planning Engineers Organisation website.

A paper written by Gary France states what should be included in the different keveks of a programme.

Regards,

Oliver
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Thu, 2007-07-19 07:32
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Carmen Arape
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Vijayendra,

Fully agree with Dieter about asking 5 people and getting 10 different answers.

I am someone who would like to add something:

1.- Dieter definition is OK for me. I have minor differences that it might be worthless to mention them.

Key things for me are:

Level 1: I try to define Level 1 in alignment with Project manager and Client. My last 3 projects, The Client gave me the Key Milestones as an input.
At this level I show the Critical Long lead Items (Equipment with critical delivery Time). Very important nowadays with a overheated market.

Lev. 4: must represent the scope of work. It depends on Project phase, for instance:
Engineering: activities defined according list of deliverables.
Procurement: Detailed procurement cycle. Especial attention to split activities when they have different responsible (especially if Client review/approval is involved).

Construction: always construction in a nightmare for me. If the Construction team has a good planning background, I work with a lot of detail especially for every Construction package.
If the Construction team does not have idea of planning, I develop a simple schedule more oriented on the progress measurement database.

Level 2, 3 : It is the roll-up of level 4 in order to inform intermediate management, for instance , Engineering leads, Peocurement leads.

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Thu, 2007-07-19 06:37
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Dieter Wambach
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Vijayendra
there is no exact definition just a rough common understanding:
L 1: Management overview, i.e. Key milestones + key-hammocks; about 10 activities with baseline
L 2: Still an overview but more detailed: e.g. inclusive lead-time for key items, more milestones; still 40-50 activities, depending on size, importance, risk, ... of the project up to 100.
L 3: All main activities.
L 4: All activities for a certain topic, e.g. all engineering documents

BUT if you’ll ask 5 people you’ll probably get at least 10 answers - basically the same, different in details. --> Levels must be defined with the customer.

In P3 it is very easy:
Create activity-code e.g. "Level Schedule" with the different levels -->
Assign a value to each activity -->
Create filters for each -->
Arrange page setup for each -->
Create layout for each -->
give a proper name -->
save

If a collegue did so already, with the transfer button you can easily copy those filters and layouts - access rights assumed.

Regards

Dieter
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