Of the changes included in the study a review of the project record data showed more than 52% were caused by plans and/or specification errors and omissions, 32% were owner directed changes, and 9% resulted from unforeseen/existing conditions. The occurrences of the remaining causations sharply drop off in the order of value engineering, acceleration/delay, and force majeure (see table 1).
Dilbert cartoon just mocks the delay and does not provide any practical advise, he is a looser.
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Submitted by AlexLyaschenko on Thu, 2020-06-18 08:53
I am actually using this Dilbert cartoon in my 1st slide when implement a schedule maturity assessment for my clients with a question “Do we actually need a schedule”?
1. Many PMs can't understand why they need to a plan for their project if it likely to change anyway. Often they are process (not result) oriented and believes that good process will lead the best result.
2. Many organisations have strong project governance control and lower level of project performance. Typically, they play “PCR (Project Change Control)” game. In these organisations in 95% cases standart way to recover projects from red/amber status is to raise PCR and rebaseline schedule.
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Submitted by Rafael Davila on Thu, 2020-06-18 01:10
a) Upload Image to Postimage (free) or any other image hosting service.
You might use Foxit Phantom PDF to "print" Spider reports into PDF and then convert PDF to JPEG at 300 dpi using Online PDF to JPG Converter this can give you high quality images for large format pages.
You might capture screen images using Snagit and save into image files.
You might crop image files by right click file and selecting Edit with Photos before uploading.
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c) I frequently use “Thumbnail for website” when images are large.
d) In your post mark with XXXXX or any marker easy to find into the desired target location.
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I got it about the comic strip, known for its satirical office humor featuring engineer Dilbert as the title character. Maybe your people are not interested, it is not necessarily they are not capable to understand. I would not blame them, not everyone is hooked on sarcastic strips. I would never pay to post the strip image and rather post the hyperlink for free.
By the way this forum is for Planning, Scheduling and Programming Discussion, here trivia is a distraction. For P6 there is Oracle Primavera PM-6. For trivia there is the Trivia & Non Planning Discussion, here trivia is welcomed as well as your interpretation.
Yes perhaps - could have had many scope changes alspo, but are they saying a schedule just becomes a "to do" calendar when you change the dates enough. Its all pretty silly. - Rafael was so patient and polite in explaining I should have posted this in a more appropriate section - the Trivia section, that I will like continue this there at some point.
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Submitted by Santosh Bhat on Tue, 2020-06-16 14:55
Rafeal - how did you post that graphic - this sais that I posted the cartoon but it does not show up. ...You guys are the kings, true assets to the scheduling world. 2696 and 4865 posts respectively. BUT you guys are both way off on this one. DILBERT IS A HUMOR CARTOON in the US. I paid the Dilbert site to post this for you. I respect IP rights but I think i could have posted this under the "review" and "parody" aspects. I put this in the P6 section because that is the only section I look at, I assume others also. Now I am worried about "my people" to understand a Dilbert (parody aspect)- I think the AEC world has beaten the humor out of you. I did have a slight typo that made it harder to understand - but this was not a question that would warrent a technical answer - more philosophical answer. And to be safe I paid for this cartoon for this use. I think the attempt at humor comes from the angle that after you have changed your schedule 8 times, lets say in a month, than your not really "scheduling" anything anymore but picking dates from a calendar when things might happen.
You guys are the kings, true assets to the scheduling world. 2696 and 4865 posts respectively. BUT you guys are both way off on this one. DILBERT IS A HUMOR CARTOON in the US. I paid the Dilbert site to post this for you. I respect IP rights but I think i could have posted this under the "review" and "parody" aspects. I put this in the P6 section because that is the only section I look at, I assume others also. Now I am worried about "my people" to understand a Dilbert (parody aspect)- I think the AEC world has beaten the humor out of you. I did have a slight typo that made it harder to understand - but this was not a question that would warrent a technical answer - more philosophical answer. And to be safe I paid for this cartoon for this use. I think the attempt at humor comes from the angle that after you have changed your schedule 8 times, lets say in a month, than your not really "scheduling" anything anymore but picking dates from a calendar when things might happen.
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Submitted by Rafael Davila on Mon, 2020-06-15 12:27
This is a different section than P6 where your protest shall also be posted.
Please be reminded that not all software have such calendar issues.
Some schedulers do not understand that multiple calendars can make the critical path to be broken into several non-contiguous segments and tweak the schedule to force the critical path to be contiguous. This is float sequestration, it is not good practice and is prohibited by most scheduling specifications.
The “Longest Path” algorithm is widely believed to reliably identify the critical path for schedules with multiple calendars. However available literature on the WEB claim P6 does not always correctly identify “Float” or the “Longest Path”. Oracle acknowledges “P6 Longest Path” is broken when activities are no longer driven by relationships; that is, when activity dates are driven by constraints or resource leveling.
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16 years 3 monthsits is much hareder to hit a
its is much hareder to hit a moving target
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4 years 11 monthsIf you constantly change your
If you constantly change your schedule, that doesn't mean anything at all. It simply lists what you do daily, so it is more like a calendar.
This is what I got from the conversation.
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Regarding Construction Projects :
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14 years 2 monthsI am actually using this
I am actually using this Dilbert cartoon in my 1st slide when implement a schedule maturity assessment for my clients with a question “Do we actually need a schedule”?
1. Many PMs can't understand why they need to a plan for their project if it likely to change anyway. Often they are process (not result) oriented and believes that good process will lead the best result.
2. Many organisations have strong project governance control and lower level of project performance. Typically, they play “PCR (Project Change Control)” game. In these organisations in 95% cases standart way to recover projects from red/amber status is to raise PCR and rebaseline schedule.
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21 years 8 monthsTo embed images into Planning
To embed images into Planning Planet Forums:
a) Upload Image to Postimage (free) or any other image hosting service.
b) After uploading get PP Forum compatible codes - those that use the > and < characters.
c) I frequently use “Thumbnail for website” when images are large.
d) In your post mark with XXXXX or any marker easy to find into the desired target location.
e) Disable rich text by clicking lower left banner.
f) Paste code where your marker XXXXX is.
g) Enable rich text.
h) Done.
I got it about the comic strip, known for its satirical office humor featuring engineer Dilbert as the title character. Maybe your people are not interested, it is not necessarily they are not capable to understand. I would not blame them, not everyone is hooked on sarcastic strips. I would never pay to post the strip image and rather post the hyperlink for free.
Connecting to Other Website
By the way this forum is for Planning, Scheduling and Programming Discussion, here trivia is a distraction. For P6 there is Oracle Primavera PM-6. For trivia there is the Trivia & Non Planning Discussion, here trivia is welcomed as well as your interpretation.
Best Regards,
Rafael
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12 years 6 monthsYes perhaps - could have had
Yes perhaps - could have had many scope changes alspo, but are they saying a schedule just becomes a "to do" calendar when you change the dates enough. Its all pretty silly. - Rafael was so patient and polite in explaining I should have posted this in a more appropriate section - the Trivia section, that I will like continue this there at some point.
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20 years 6 monthsJohn, its obvious,
John, its obvious, Re-baselining to hide poor performance.
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16 years 3 monthsyou can change a calendar and
you can change a calendar and work 7 days a week instead of 5 and recover time.
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Here is a link
https://dilbert.com/search_results?terms=%22called+a+calendar%22
Rafeal - how did you post that graphic - this sais that I posted the cartoon but it does not show up. ...You guys are the kings, true assets to the scheduling world. 2696 and 4865 posts respectively. BUT you guys are both way off on this one. DILBERT IS A HUMOR CARTOON in the US. I paid the Dilbert site to post this for you. I respect IP rights but I think i could have posted this under the "review" and "parody" aspects. I put this in the P6 section because that is the only section I look at, I assume others also. Now I am worried about "my people" to understand a Dilbert (parody aspect)- I think the AEC world has beaten the humor out of you. I did have a slight typo that made it harder to understand - but this was not a question that would warrent a technical answer - more philosophical answer. And to be safe I paid for this cartoon for this use. I think the attempt at humor comes from the angle that after you have changed your schedule 8 times, lets say in a month, than your not really "scheduling" anything anymore but picking dates from a calendar when things might happen.
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12 years 6 monthsYou guys are the kings, true
You guys are the kings, true assets to the scheduling world. 2696 and 4865 posts respectively. BUT you guys are both way off on this one. DILBERT IS A HUMOR CARTOON in the US. I paid the Dilbert site to post this for you. I respect IP rights but I think i could have posted this under the "review" and "parody" aspects. I put this in the P6 section because that is the only section I look at, I assume others also. Now I am worried about "my people" to understand a Dilbert (parody aspect)- I think the AEC world has beaten the humor out of you. I did have a slight typo that made it harder to understand - but this was not a question that would warrent a technical answer - more philosophical answer. And to be safe I paid for this cartoon for this use. I think the attempt at humor comes from the angle that after you have changed your schedule 8 times, lets say in a month, than your not really "scheduling" anything anymore but picking dates from a calendar when things might happen.
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21 years 8 monthsThis is a different section