Normally I set up a layout sorted by total float (ascending). Then, as already suggested, I start at the latest item and step up through the driving predecessors - looking at the relationships to make certain they make sense. If anything is incorrect or can be adjusted, I make the changes and then reschedule.
Then if you reorganize you will get the new "worst case" total float. I repeat this until the float path makes sense.
At that time, if it is still negative, you need to look for ways to recover the time.
Hope this helps.
EC
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Submitted by Gordon Blair on Fri, 2006-01-13 06:46
For example: I dare say there are a number of our esteemed colleagues working on the 2012 Olympic Build in London. Im hoping that theyre not already showing negative float in their Plans, but if they were, this could be solved IN THE SOFTWARE by changing the must finish by date.
... but people will be really miffed when its time to light the flame and theres a lot of scaffolding and no seats in the Stadium and a little voice is heard in in the Project office " ...no, really, its ok.... the plan says weve still got 10 days float..."
Not being funny, or holding egg-sucking lessons, but please, before you change the end date, make sure it can be moved.
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Submitted by Christian Adri… on Thu, 2006-01-12 21:49
Just to add my thought, you could also try to check in the File>Project Overview then remove the date in the "Must finish by" field and reschedule it again...
HTH..
Christian
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Submitted by Gordon Blair on Thu, 2006-01-12 11:18
On the less optimistic side, there is always the possibility that theres nothing wrong with the logic at all.
You could simply have too few resources to get the job done in the time allocated.
Having investigated using the methods quoted above (my personal preference would be to trawl back from the close out activities, verifying the driving relationships - shown by an asterisk * in the Predecessors box); the next step really depends on the nature of the Project, and your familiarity with its field (i.e. whether you have enough in depth knowledge to be changing relationships or durations).
I currently work in the Nuclear Sector and would always discuss any potential changes with either the PM or Nominated Engineer, as my technical experience is outside the industry. If I were on an IT Project, Id be a little more comfortable, perhaps putting together a Proposed Plan to be Peer reviewed by the Senior Members of the Project team to ensure no glaring mistakes.
I guess what Im trying to get across is, once youve investigated what is driving your Critical Path, how you fix it, very much depends on your project and circumstances.
Sorry about the ramble, good luck :o)
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Submitted by Rowena Tenbroek on Thu, 2006-01-12 09:48
Check finish date before and after leveling. If after leveling finish date go beyond the before leveling finish date, add more resources to reduce the negative float and to expedite the work.
Regards.
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Submitted by Rashid Iqbal on Wed, 2006-01-11 17:55
Try filtering out the activties with negative float and If there are a large number of activties with negative float search for the one that are around -120. Open columns for predecessor and successors and search in reverse order i.e. from project finish to DD.
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19 years 9 monthsRE: Troubleshooting with P3
Rowena -
Normally I set up a layout sorted by total float (ascending). Then, as already suggested, I start at the latest item and step up through the driving predecessors - looking at the relationships to make certain they make sense. If anything is incorrect or can be adjusted, I make the changes and then reschedule.
Then if you reorganize you will get the new "worst case" total float. I repeat this until the float path makes sense.
At that time, if it is still negative, you need to look for ways to recover the time.
Hope this helps.
EC
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20 years 3 monthsRE: Troubleshooting with P3
But only if this reflects reality...
For example: I dare say there are a number of our esteemed colleagues working on the 2012 Olympic Build in London. Im hoping that theyre not already showing negative float in their Plans, but if they were, this could be solved IN THE SOFTWARE by changing the must finish by date.
... but people will be really miffed when its time to light the flame and theres a lot of scaffolding and no seats in the Stadium and a little voice is heard in in the Project office " ...no, really, its ok.... the plan says weve still got 10 days float..."
Not being funny, or holding egg-sucking lessons, but please, before you change the end date, make sure it can be moved.
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22 years 5 monthsRE: Troubleshooting with P3
Hello Rowena
Just to add my thought, you could also try to check in the File>Project Overview then remove the date in the "Must finish by" field and reschedule it again...
HTH..
Christian
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20 years 3 monthsRE: Troubleshooting with P3
Rowena,
On the less optimistic side, there is always the possibility that theres nothing wrong with the logic at all.
You could simply have too few resources to get the job done in the time allocated.
Having investigated using the methods quoted above (my personal preference would be to trawl back from the close out activities, verifying the driving relationships - shown by an asterisk * in the Predecessors box); the next step really depends on the nature of the Project, and your familiarity with its field (i.e. whether you have enough in depth knowledge to be changing relationships or durations).
I currently work in the Nuclear Sector and would always discuss any potential changes with either the PM or Nominated Engineer, as my technical experience is outside the industry. If I were on an IT Project, Id be a little more comfortable, perhaps putting together a Proposed Plan to be Peer reviewed by the Senior Members of the Project team to ensure no glaring mistakes.
I guess what Im trying to get across is, once youve investigated what is driving your Critical Path, how you fix it, very much depends on your project and circumstances.
Sorry about the ramble, good luck :o)
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19 years 10 monthsRE: Troubleshooting with P3
Thanks for everyones help. Ill see how everything goes. Rowena
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20 years 4 monthsRE: Troubleshooting with P3
Hello Rowena,
You try PERT view, go to cosmic.
Cheers,
Charlie
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20 years 8 monthsRE: Troubleshooting with P3
Check finish date before and after leveling. If after leveling finish date go beyond the before leveling finish date, add more resources to reduce the negative float and to expedite the work.
Regards.
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20 years 6 monthsRE: Troubleshooting with P3
Try filtering out the activties with negative float and If there are a large number of activties with negative float search for the one that are around -120. Open columns for predecessor and successors and search in reverse order i.e. from project finish to DD.
I hope it would help...
Regards
Rashid