Absolutely. It does what it says on the box. A Project Controls Manager should do exactly that, run the project controls - this is not just tracking, but providing the information (cash, resources, time) to the PM to make the best decision on action to be taken, if any, at the correct time when there are deviations from the agreed plan.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Tue, 2007-10-30 04:00
I see youre back sorting out Charlies nonsense, errors and flights of fancy. I wish I had your patience, but unfortunately when I see somebody acting like a pillock, and trying to pass themselves off as some sort of expert, I tend to become a bit short with them.
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Tue, 2007-10-30 02:50
Sometimes wierd emotions happened since I do need it to give me a booster in my work.
I noticed that you are not active anymore. Maybe you are busy or maybe the post are so unbelievable. Well anyway, just to let you know, I track your post,
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Tue, 2007-10-30 02:44
This is democracy only in planning planet can we exercise true democracy "your right to say your opinion that I will defend with my life" of course some i like, some i do not like.
But please give the planning world such research done by you like the Marant Case,if relevant to a particular thread.
I do read your post.
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Tue, 2007-10-30 01:02
Here we go again. Why are you keeping on being negative and playing the "devil advocate". Dont be like your stooges and some wanaabe.
Clive, we are here more than one year and you are still reacting to my thread in the same fashion as before.
Please channel your energy by giving bright ideas like the Marant case. I love that. Show to the planning planet world that you are indeed senior citiezen worthy of respect
Anyway to rebutt your understanding of english language
You said "...believe they are about setting the course of a project, checking that it is being followed and manipulating elements to ensure success."
This is what my message is the fundamental of Project Control is Tracking. But first you must establish something to track meaning in our day to day work: The baseline program.
And to create a workable baseline program is a huge work for planning engineer. It is much more work in tracking the baseline program in the event the activities are more than 50,000. WHEW, whew, whew.
I intentionally mention just tracking for PCM to bait some bright ideas but sad to say, I did not get it.
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Tue, 2007-10-30 01:01
Here we go again. Why are you keeping on being negative and playing the "devil advocate". Dont be like your stooges and some wanaabe.
Clive, we are here more than one year and you are still reacting to my thread in the same fashion as before.
Please channel your energy by giving bright ideas like the Marant case. I love that. Show to the planning planet world that you are indeed senior citiezen worthy of respect
Anyway to rebutt your understanding of english language
You said "...believe they are about setting the course of a project, checking that it is being followed and manipulating elements to ensure success."
This is what my message is the fundamental of Project Control is Tracking. But first you must establish something to track meaning in our day to day work: The baseline program.
And to create a workable baseline program is a huge work for planning engineer. It is much more work in tracking the baseline program in the event the activities are more than 50,000. WHEW, whew, whew.
I intentionally mention just tracking for PCM to bait some bright ideas but sad to say, I did not get it.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Mon, 2007-10-29 13:52
1. What do you propose the scope of PCM should be. (reversal question). Answer: The fundamental of PCM is tracking, so it will follow that the fundamental scope shall relate to tracking, tracking What????
2. If you are in the oil/petro(I am in this), asked the various discplines and problems that lies in each discpline. Answer: The person who ask do not know. If he know and pretend not to know, it will create distrust. So, the PCM shall be knowlegeable in all discipline, NO EXCUSE please.
3. For specifics one, asked for hands-on demo of 1 discpline in either E / P / C. The PCM should be able to draft out. Answer: The PCM should be able to demonstrate his knowledge and versatility in Project Control.
4. Asked what analysis system to deploy for control - planning and cost. Answer: Be sure that the candidate can prove a syste approach in Project Control. You miss this very and most important aspect of the candidate, you will end up providing an employee to work for him, typical manager. "I AM THE MANAGER. SOMEONE MUST WORK FOR ME, I HAVE TO MANAGE SOMEONE".. he he, actually I dont know, i just wanted to learn from my workers since it is my previlege considering that the color of my skin is XXXXX.
5. How to reduce risk and provides effective control. Answer: The candidate must know how to answer this.
6. Efficiency with the various tool required. Answer Primavera P3 is enough. MSP is no good.
7. The projects that is involved. Answer: Must not be less than 1 billion USD.
Have to know how to single out participation and causation, ie are u the reason for success of project or just a participant. Answer: The PC should be the reason for project to succeed. Other than this answer, throw out the candidate, you are just wasting time talking to the candidate.
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Submitted by Chris Oggham on Thu, 2007-10-25 09:36
I agree with you 100%. It might be argued that the PCM should have some familiarity with using the different software packages, but I don’t think it is essential. As long as they know what is wanted and how this can be best delivered, this should be enough.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Thu, 2007-10-25 04:15
To effectively monitor/control, you need a good understanding of the variables (people, project and tools to be used)involved in the process being controlled.
These are the responsibilties in a big project environment for a PCS Manager. So you can ask questions to him according to your requirement / expectations from the PCS. (First you should specify the role and responsiblities of PCS Manager and obviously checking his/her skill relevant to the expectations will be easy)
But definetly not checking too much knowledge of Primavera skills as somebody mentioned here.
In depth knowledge is always a plus
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Mon, 2007-10-22 07:42
PCS Manager (Project Controls Manager) : Role will vary according to the Project & Organization he is working for. PCS (from Project Management firm) and PCS (from Contractor) will have slightly different role.
PCS Manager will have the following dept. reporting / Supporting to him
1. Planning
2. Cost
3. Document Control
4. IT (can support them for tools & tech implementation)
5. Contracts Department
PCS should be aware of tools and technology BUT not mandatory to have in depth knowledge of products viz, P6
Softwares are tools only, it cant be learnt over a period of time but not the PLANNING.
PCS Manager should have the vision on How to execute the Project within specified TIME & COST.
1. He should Develop the WBS (not P3 WBS) on overall Project
2. He should be able to write the following procedures
. Planning Procedure (including software to be used, activity duration shuld not exceed 15 days, how to updatge progress, how to give activity id, how to measure performance, reports to be prepared on regular intervals, what if analysis etc)
. Document Coding Procedure - How to number each document viz, Submittals, Shop Drawings, Other Drawings, RFI, MOM etc
. Develop Cost Coding Procedure - This will help to identify the cost of the project at various levels (not to confuse with cost of P3). How to use Expedition / Prolog / Excel or some other programme to develop cost worksheet.
. Develop Risk Management procedure
. Should Co-ordinate to develop PMP (Project Management Plan) or Project Execution Plan (PEP)
. Always Proactive to bring notice about the kind of risks, deviation etc in the Project
Like this he should be abel visualise and should create a good interface of Planning, Costing & Document Dept.
For a big Projects / Programme various dept Planning Engineers / Managers will be reporting to PCS Manager / Director.
In short PCS Manager should be well versed Planning, Costing & Document Management. He should create a common interface between all of them.
Due to lack of time, I could not write more detail role of PCS.
It so happen that I come across only with P5. Some friend of mine ask me to do Planning/scheduling using P6. I learn only the basic since I have to present a schedule in one week time. I did finish the fundamentals using P6.
After that..... no more. The point here is to know that fundamental in such a way that whatever software available, we can always present a plan.
Using MSP is never a problem to me, whatever version or upgrade.
The project environment Im in at the moment is not using P5. So, I got stuck with P3.
Generally, Project Control is trackcing. It is piece of cake. The basic problem also is that the line manager and top manager dont want to listen?????
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Submitted by Dinesh Kumar D… on Sat, 2007-10-20 14:55
There are many project controls/plannning engineers who can do far better than quite many project controls managers in UAE but their CVs may not reflect all that.Even their CVs do reflect but there are many other factors that are affecting them becoming project controls managers.
For your information, P3,P5 now P6 are just tools only to allow you to make scheduling but not planning.If one do not know how to use P6 or P5,then the same can be leart in no time, but basically planning engineer/planning manager/ project controls manager should know how to plan.He/she should know the time required for individual tasks, the sequence of work, cycle time analysis,cost engineering and so on. Beside all these requirement he should also know project management which would allow him to work with project management team closely and effeciently.He also should know contracts and it relation to the schedule and delay analysis etc.
Some prospective candidates chicken, they are scared to show what they know about planning, so the best alibi, i got a good offer yesterday only (liar).
Some candidate bring their laptops, recent reports showing P3 schedule, S-Curve,, BUT BUT, when the proficiency hands on demonstration: The laptop got password which the candidates dont know the password. OK company will lend the company laptop, but when candidate used, candidate destroy the company laptop. NO exam possible
In conclusion: People acting funny when they say more than in their cv. That is why hands on proficiency is very important.
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Sat, 2007-10-20 03:16
Base on your experience, please prepare a new hypothetical project (Villa Construciton, Residential Building Construction, Tower/High Rise Construction, Bridge Construction, Industrial Construction, Oil and Gas Facilties, etc.)
Limit the activities from 15 to 30 activities. The activity type should included task, milestiones and hammock.
Please demonstrate proficiency in export/import command
Please demonstrate proficiency in global change.
Please demonstrate assigning resources and cost.
Please demonstrate WBS and Activity Codes.
From the new project, please produce a Progress S-curve in Excel chart.
Please prepare a Narrative of your program and Progress S-curve.
What is planning?
What is Project Control?
Demonstrate expertise in system approach in Project Planning and Project Contorl.
I believe this is a fair requirement to a Prospective "PROJECT CONTROL MANAGER" candidate for employement
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Sat, 2007-10-20 03:05
People will know the company, they will present themselves and ask for smaller packet.
some planners go lowest, 3,000 AED per month. it will not be surprising if 1 million applicant, housewife, labourers, illegal immigrants, etc. will present themselves with bogus credetial not authenticated by independent third party
Competition is very tough if you are in this level. One mistake, bye bye, no comapssion.
To survive, you are simply the best.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Thu, 2007-10-18 06:08
In my experience this is not the case. and if people work with my project control team, I have to ensure that my teams are proficient in the using planning software, Primavera P3.
I dread hiring someone who claim in his cv that he know this and that, then at the end of the day I will find out that he dont know anything. Can you imagine the embarassment to the Client, executive management, etc.
The worse thing to happen is to cover up the mess. AND THIS MEANS "I HAVE TO DO HIS WORK and he will sit and watch me do his work!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH what a shame!!!!
Whos head will roll??? I cannot afford to lose 20,0000 USD per mont all inclusive.
This is only self preservation and to let people know Im not gullible.
Im sorry, my standard is to high.
I will not hire housewife, wedding planers, smal time planners.
They should be engineers who are professional planners.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Thu, 2007-10-18 05:53
It is very easy to use that, in my standard, it is not really a planning tools.
This is a big problem here in planning planet because anyone can use MSP and call themselves planner, even labourers from far away land can punch the keyboard of MSP and call themselves the greatest planners on earth or PP.
Im sorry but this is only my humble opinion. IMHO.
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Submitted by Charleston-Jos… on Thu, 2007-10-18 05:45
It is very easy to use that, in my standard, it is not really a planning tools.
This is a big problem here in planning planet because anyone can use MSP and call themselves planner, even labourers from far away land can punch the keyboard of MSP and call themselves the greatest planners on earth or PP.
Im sorry but this is only my humble opinion. IMHO.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Thu, 2007-10-18 05:09
Before you interveiw a candidate for Project Control Manager, you have to be praactical that not all written in the cv are correct.
The best way to hire a prospective candidate is to undergo hands-on proficiency in Primavera P3.
I have a lot of candidates for Junior Planning Manager but acting strange on the day of there schedule hands on proficiency exam in Primavera, Excel, Words, Access and Powerpoint.
There alibi: I took a good offer only yesterday around 15,000 USD per month all inclusive.
Anyone interested to work with me and undergo the process is most welcome. WE can arrange for online or virtual hands on proficiency exam, if interested. Just PM me.
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Submitted by Dinesh Kumar D… on Thu, 2007-09-13 07:45
Project Controls Manager relatively a news position introduced on projects(in Asia, Middle East,UK and other part of the world).
Traditionally, we used to have a contracts department who is responsible for all the cost and contracts related issues and a planner/scheduler who supports scheduling functions supporting project manager projects.Cost and scheduling interface used to be managed by the project manager. Due this reason, still there is no proper fortfolio for the project controls manager in the industry.I have worked on major projects and seen project controls manager mostly involved in the scheduling management role rather than project controls.
Let us come to the basics, we all know what is project is; controls: To reduce or prevent the spread of,To adjust to a requirement; regulate etc.Project Controls Manager should be responsible for devising all the measures, implementing them monitoring them and controlling them, This is applicable for time, cost, quality and safety. Normally projects do have quality control and safety managers and these two item are left for them to handle which leaves cost and time to the PCM.Quantity surveying(including contracts) and scheduling departments should be part of Project Controls in order to be effective.
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Submitted by Dieter Wambach on Thu, 2007-09-13 05:07
I cant remember that we quoted on such project of that size, so the risk you mentioned doesnt fit. But I believe it is a good argument to reflect - thank you.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Thu, 2007-09-13 04:54
The whole point of the PMI BoK and the APM BoK is to make an internationally recognized lexicon for the project management industry.
If your company bid upon a project of less than 100k that my or rav’s company were tendering and we saw that you had included a PCM, then it it possible that our companies would not choose your bid for contract award because it may look like your over estimating the planning requirements.
This is a very simplistic example I know, but when do you work for say American clients (PMI) and you are a european company (APM), misconstrued information can cost money!
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Submitted by Dieter Wambach on Thu, 2007-09-13 04:39
This is no religious war. I explained how PCM is defined in the company Im working for. My personal opinion doesn’t count. In other companies terms are used differently.
I really don’t understand why you don’t accept. We all are working in projects most of us for changing customers and so we are accustomed (or should be ..) to adapt to different environments, to live with different cultures, with different terms. No need to fight and to evaluate, but to define and to discuss.
By the way: If I would have to decide the terms, I would agree with Raviraj. I’ll try to modify the definition.
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Submitted by Oliver Melling on Thu, 2007-09-13 04:20
I wrote "templates to be used as bricks". I didn’t write "using the traditional templates (bricks) alone". Projects are singular, it would be absolutely stupid to restrict a schedule to templates/bricks. It must be: bricks + individual. But there is no need for always reinvent wheels. This I meant by effectively working.
You use a different definition than we do. That’s ok.
Please show me an international law/regulation where this term is defined. There isn’t any. PMBoK: Nothing. Even in Germany where we have a industrial norm for everything, it isn’t defined. So we have to develop the term by ourselves, live with different definitions, and then discuss.
Not all projects have a size of some billions of Euros or Dollars, that you need a team for project controls. Normal project life is different. Mostly one person will be ok (+replacement).
the way u hav presented @ PCM, he sounds more like a Sr. Planner / Sr. Scheduler.
His main job shud b to get d right things done (not by self) by others. He shud communicate with other departments to provide / show them where as a project, v r standing.
He shud try to provide information which is more relevant to this specific project rather than using the traditional templates (bricks) alone.
The crux of the matter is; he shud:
- establish the standard APPROACH for the specific project to organise the various elements of the planning & project controls
- He shud FACILITATE the planner / scheduler for formation of comprehensive time-phased budget by thorough schedule planning and cost estimating.
- To control project activity flow by defining how work is formally authorised
- To GUIDE planning team for making performance reports and SUGGEST ways to control changes to the project baseline.
As far as project size is concerned, if the project size is bigger, then there will be PLANNING MANAGER ALONG WITH A PROJECT CONTROLS MANAGER.
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Submitted by Dieter Wambach on Wed, 2007-09-12 14:31
Again, first its an item for definition second it depends on the size of project.If a project has a size that it requires more than one person for scheduling, he will more be team leader during project execution. We have some templates to be used as bricks, which makes life easier for the planner. As planning is easier in p5/P6 than in P3, this was another reason to switch.
A PCM who has a "complicated way of scheduling and reporting" would work for a different company. With an effective way of working he will have plenty of time to perfom the total scope of work.
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if its me, i will ask
1. can you derive a basic schedule from scratch?
2. what is your factor in measuring progress?
3. what is S curve?
For me, the candidate should know all this.
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Yes, he usually will have a role to play in the initial determination of the cost and schedule parameters, if he was on the project from inception.
Which buttresses Charless argument of working knowledge of processes and tools involved in the project.
On the other hand the project could be inherited, which reduces his input in the determination of the initial conditions.
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I stand to be corrected but I am of the opinion that PCM is concerned with;
1. Comparison of project performance against baseline in terms of SCHEDULE and COST indices
2. Assesment of performance to determine indicated preventive/corrective actions
3. Project risk analyzing, tracking and monitoring to facilitate development of appropriate response plans.
4. Provision of information for status reporting, progress measurement and forecasting
5. Provision of schedule and cost forecasts
6. Monitoring change origination and implementation as they arise
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Clive
Absolutely. It does what it says on the box. A Project Controls Manager should do exactly that, run the project controls - this is not just tracking, but providing the information (cash, resources, time) to the PM to make the best decision on action to be taken, if any, at the correct time when there are deviations from the agreed plan.
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Hi Clive,
I see youre back sorting out Charlies nonsense, errors and flights of fancy. I wish I had your patience, but unfortunately when I see somebody acting like a pillock, and trying to pass themselves off as some sort of expert, I tend to become a bit short with them.
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AND i will give to whom it is due.
DEAREST ANDREW.
I LOVE WHAT YOU DID FOR PLANNING PLANET.
Sometimes wierd emotions happened since I do need it to give me a booster in my work.
I noticed that you are not active anymore. Maybe you are busy or maybe the post are so unbelievable. Well anyway, just to let you know, I track your post,
THEY ARE BRILLIANT.
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CRYSTAL CLEAR
This is democracy only in planning planet can we exercise true democracy "your right to say your opinion that I will defend with my life" of course some i like, some i do not like.
But please give the planning world such research done by you like the Marant Case,if relevant to a particular thread.
I do read your post.
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Dearest Clive,
Here we go again. Why are you keeping on being negative and playing the "devil advocate". Dont be like your stooges and some wanaabe.
Clive, we are here more than one year and you are still reacting to my thread in the same fashion as before.
Please channel your energy by giving bright ideas like the Marant case. I love that. Show to the planning planet world that you are indeed senior citiezen worthy of respect
Anyway to rebutt your understanding of english language
You said "...believe they are about setting the course of a project, checking that it is being followed and manipulating elements to ensure success."
This is what my message is the fundamental of Project Control is Tracking. But first you must establish something to track meaning in our day to day work: The baseline program.
And to create a workable baseline program is a huge work for planning engineer. It is much more work in tracking the baseline program in the event the activities are more than 50,000. WHEW, whew, whew.
I intentionally mention just tracking for PCM to bait some bright ideas but sad to say, I did not get it.
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Dearest Clive,
Here we go again. Why are you keeping on being negative and playing the "devil advocate". Dont be like your stooges and some wanaabe.
Clive, we are here more than one year and you are still reacting to my thread in the same fashion as before.
Please channel your energy by giving bright ideas like the Marant case. I love that. Show to the planning planet world that you are indeed senior citiezen worthy of respect
Anyway to rebutt your understanding of english language
You said "...believe they are about setting the course of a project, checking that it is being followed and manipulating elements to ensure success."
This is what my message is the fundamental of Project Control is Tracking. But first you must establish something to track meaning in our day to day work: The baseline program.
And to create a workable baseline program is a huge work for planning engineer. It is much more work in tracking the baseline program in the event the activities are more than 50,000. WHEW, whew, whew.
I intentionally mention just tracking for PCM to bait some bright ideas but sad to say, I did not get it.
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I thought it was pretty obvious Nieman!
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Oliver!
WHAT are you suggesting?
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Hi,
IMO, Asked
1. What do you propose the scope of PCM should be. (reversal question). Answer: The fundamental of PCM is tracking, so it will follow that the fundamental scope shall relate to tracking, tracking What????
2. If you are in the oil/petro(I am in this), asked the various discplines and problems that lies in each discpline. Answer: The person who ask do not know. If he know and pretend not to know, it will create distrust. So, the PCM shall be knowlegeable in all discipline, NO EXCUSE please.
3. For specifics one, asked for hands-on demo of 1 discpline in either E / P / C. The PCM should be able to draft out. Answer: The PCM should be able to demonstrate his knowledge and versatility in Project Control.
4. Asked what analysis system to deploy for control - planning and cost. Answer: Be sure that the candidate can prove a syste approach in Project Control. You miss this very and most important aspect of the candidate, you will end up providing an employee to work for him, typical manager. "I AM THE MANAGER. SOMEONE MUST WORK FOR ME, I HAVE TO MANAGE SOMEONE".. he he, actually I dont know, i just wanted to learn from my workers since it is my previlege considering that the color of my skin is XXXXX.
5. How to reduce risk and provides effective control. Answer: The candidate must know how to answer this.
6. Efficiency with the various tool required. Answer Primavera P3 is enough. MSP is no good.
7. The projects that is involved. Answer: Must not be less than 1 billion USD.
Have to know how to single out participation and causation, ie are u the reason for success of project or just a participant. Answer: The PC should be the reason for project to succeed. Other than this answer, throw out the candidate, you are just wasting time talking to the candidate.
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Oliver,
I agree with you 100%. It might be argued that the PCM should have some familiarity with using the different software packages, but I don’t think it is essential. As long as they know what is wanted and how this can be best delivered, this should be enough.
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Adedji,
Charles opinion was that a PCM should be able to use P3.
In a company where you are a PCM, such as a defence company, you may have 100 schedulers working for you across 20 different business units.
You may also have 4 or 5 different planning software packages, MSP, Primavera, PowerProject etc.
So, the point being made is that knowledge of how to use the software isnt important to a PCM.
He/she just needs to know it can deliver the required level of project data to the PMs and PEs in the business.
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Hi,
IMO, Asked
1. What do you propose the scope of PCM should be. (reversal question)
2. If you are in the oil/petro(I am in this), asked the various discplines and problems that lies in each discpline.
3. For specifics one, asked for hands-on demo of 1 discpline in either E / P / C. The PCM should be able to draft out.
4. Asked what analysis system to deploy for control - planning and cost
5. How to reduce risk and provides effective control.
6. Efficiency with the various tool required.
7. The projects that is involved.
Have to know how to single out participation and causation, ie are u the reason for success of project or just a participant.
For qn.2, I manage to generate a general template for EP of all the discplines which goes into my head. :>
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To effectively monitor/control, you need a good understanding of the variables (people, project and tools to be used)involved in the process being controlled.
IMHO, I lean towards Charless definition.
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Hi,
These are the responsibilties in a big project environment for a PCS Manager. So you can ask questions to him according to your requirement / expectations from the PCS. (First you should specify the role and responsiblities of PCS Manager and obviously checking his/her skill relevant to the expectations will be easy)
But definetly not checking too much knowledge of Primavera skills as somebody mentioned here.
In depth knowledge is always a plus
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Hi Sudharsan,
You mean to check and ask your Project Control Manager if he knows what your are trying to tell here in PP.
Please let us know.
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PCS Manager (Project Controls Manager) : Role will vary according to the Project & Organization he is working for. PCS (from Project Management firm) and PCS (from Contractor) will have slightly different role.
PCS Manager will have the following dept. reporting / Supporting to him
1. Planning
2. Cost
3. Document Control
4. IT (can support them for tools & tech implementation)
5. Contracts Department
PCS should be aware of tools and technology BUT not mandatory to have in depth knowledge of products viz, P6
Softwares are tools only, it cant be learnt over a period of time but not the PLANNING.
PCS Manager should have the vision on How to execute the Project within specified TIME & COST.
1. He should Develop the WBS (not P3 WBS) on overall Project
2. He should be able to write the following procedures
. Planning Procedure (including software to be used, activity duration shuld not exceed 15 days, how to updatge progress, how to give activity id, how to measure performance, reports to be prepared on regular intervals, what if analysis etc)
. Document Coding Procedure - How to number each document viz, Submittals, Shop Drawings, Other Drawings, RFI, MOM etc
. Develop Cost Coding Procedure - This will help to identify the cost of the project at various levels (not to confuse with cost of P3). How to use Expedition / Prolog / Excel or some other programme to develop cost worksheet.
. Develop Risk Management procedure
. Should Co-ordinate to develop PMP (Project Management Plan) or Project Execution Plan (PEP)
. Always Proactive to bring notice about the kind of risks, deviation etc in the Project
Like this he should be abel visualise and should create a good interface of Planning, Costing & Document Dept.
For a big Projects / Programme various dept Planning Engineers / Managers will be reporting to PCS Manager / Director.
In short PCS Manager should be well versed Planning, Costing & Document Management. He should create a common interface between all of them.
Due to lack of time, I could not write more detail role of PCS.
Bye
Sudharsan
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really?...somebody gave you P5 (software) as payment for your services?...but you havent seen P6 yet?..youre a very lucky man Charlie
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Anoon,
I did use P5.
But only the fundamentals in such a way that I can prepare a resource and cost loaded schedule.
I master it in one week time.
The intricacy of P5, I was not able to grasp since I only have to prepare a resource and cost loaded schedule using P5. No update.
I have the software. This was the payment I request for the services I provided.
But the work environment Im in is not using P5, so any skill I derive using P5 is useless.
Cheers,
Sensei
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HI Dinesh,
I agree with you.
It so happen that I come across only with P5. Some friend of mine ask me to do Planning/scheduling using P6. I learn only the basic since I have to present a schedule in one week time. I did finish the fundamentals using P6.
After that..... no more. The point here is to know that fundamental in such a way that whatever software available, we can always present a plan.
Using MSP is never a problem to me, whatever version or upgrade.
The project environment Im in at the moment is not using P5. So, I got stuck with P3.
Generally, Project Control is trackcing. It is piece of cake. The basic problem also is that the line manager and top manager dont want to listen?????
Cheers,
Sensei
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Hi Charleston,
There are many project controls/plannning engineers who can do far better than quite many project controls managers in UAE but their CVs may not reflect all that.Even their CVs do reflect but there are many other factors that are affecting them becoming project controls managers.
For your information, P3,P5 now P6 are just tools only to allow you to make scheduling but not planning.If one do not know how to use P6 or P5,then the same can be leart in no time, but basically planning engineer/planning manager/ project controls manager should know how to plan.He/she should know the time required for individual tasks, the sequence of work, cycle time analysis,cost engineering and so on. Beside all these requirement he should also know project management which would allow him to work with project management team closely and effeciently.He also should know contracts and it relation to the schedule and delay analysis etc.
Regards
Dinesh
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19 years 1 monthRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Charlie,
Have you seen or used P6 by any chance? If you did, can you share some comments about it?...please...?
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20 years 4 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
But what happen during interview:
Some prospective candidates chicken, they are scared to show what they know about planning, so the best alibi, i got a good offer yesterday only (liar).
Some candidate bring their laptops, recent reports showing P3 schedule, S-Curve,, BUT BUT, when the proficiency hands on demonstration: The laptop got password which the candidates dont know the password. OK company will lend the company laptop, but when candidate used, candidate destroy the company laptop. NO exam possible
In conclusion: People acting funny when they say more than in their cv. That is why hands on proficiency is very important.
Cheers,
Sensei
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Believe me,
If any planner can demostrate the above during interview, WHEWWwww,
Your price is sky is the limit.
The company will beg for your to join them.
Based on my experience.
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And going back to the thread?????
Actually my question is very fair.
It is like this.
Base on your experience, please prepare a new hypothetical project (Villa Construciton, Residential Building Construction, Tower/High Rise Construction, Bridge Construction, Industrial Construction, Oil and Gas Facilties, etc.)
Limit the activities from 15 to 30 activities. The activity type should included task, milestiones and hammock.
Please demonstrate proficiency in export/import command
Please demonstrate proficiency in global change.
Please demonstrate assigning resources and cost.
Please demonstrate WBS and Activity Codes.
From the new project, please produce a Progress S-curve in Excel chart.
Please prepare a Narrative of your program and Progress S-curve.
What is planning?
What is Project Control?
Demonstrate expertise in system approach in Project Planning and Project Contorl.
I believe this is a fair requirement to a Prospective "PROJECT CONTROL MANAGER" candidate for employement
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Hi Oliver,
That is not the point of this thread.
If you are really interested to know, please start a thread regarding paychecks of planners. As for me Im not interested to what other people earn.
So please follow my advice if you are sincere in your quest to know how much company are paying there planner.
IMHO, mine is still a secret which I believe majority of our member also wanted that to keep secret how much there company are paying them.
Cheers,
Sensei
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18 years 6 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Yes,
But what company is paying $240,000 per annum?
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20 years 4 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Oliver,
Secret
You should know how the world revolve.
People will know the company, they will present themselves and ask for smaller packet.
some planners go lowest, 3,000 AED per month. it will not be surprising if 1 million applicant, housewife, labourers, illegal immigrants, etc. will present themselves with bogus credetial not authenticated by independent third party
Competition is very tough if you are in this level. One mistake, bye bye, no comapssion.
To survive, you are simply the best.
Cheers,
Sensei
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18 years 6 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Charlie,
What company is paying $240,000 per annum for a planner?
Oliver
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20 years 4 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Hello Oliver,
Your experience may gave you that conclusion.
In my experience this is not the case. and if people work with my project control team, I have to ensure that my teams are proficient in the using planning software, Primavera P3.
I dread hiring someone who claim in his cv that he know this and that, then at the end of the day I will find out that he dont know anything. Can you imagine the embarassment to the Client, executive management, etc.
The worse thing to happen is to cover up the mess. AND THIS MEANS "I HAVE TO DO HIS WORK and he will sit and watch me do his work!!!!!! AHHHHHHHH what a shame!!!!
Whos head will roll??? I cannot afford to lose 20,0000 USD per mont all inclusive.
This is only self preservation and to let people know Im not gullible.
Im sorry, my standard is to high.
I will not hire housewife, wedding planers, smal time planners.
They should be engineers who are professional planners.
Cheers,
Sensei
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18 years 6 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Charlie,
I think the point is that a PCM doesnt need to be able to use planning software.
Whether MSP of P3e, a PCM controls systems, processes and the planners who do the physical planning for him/her.
IMHO
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MSP is nothing.
There is not imagination in MSP.
It is very easy to use that, in my standard, it is not really a planning tools.
This is a big problem here in planning planet because anyone can use MSP and call themselves planner, even labourers from far away land can punch the keyboard of MSP and call themselves the greatest planners on earth or PP.
Im sorry but this is only my humble opinion. IMHO.
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20 years 4 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
MSP is nothing.
There is not imagination in MSP.
It is very easy to use that, in my standard, it is not really a planning tools.
This is a big problem here in planning planet because anyone can use MSP and call themselves planner, even labourers from far away land can punch the keyboard of MSP and call themselves the greatest planners on earth or PP.
Im sorry but this is only my humble opinion. IMHO.
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18 years 6 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
But what if they use MSP
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HI,
Before you interveiw a candidate for Project Control Manager, you have to be praactical that not all written in the cv are correct.
The best way to hire a prospective candidate is to undergo hands-on proficiency in Primavera P3.
I have a lot of candidates for Junior Planning Manager but acting strange on the day of there schedule hands on proficiency exam in Primavera, Excel, Words, Access and Powerpoint.
There alibi: I took a good offer only yesterday around 15,000 USD per month all inclusive.
Anyone interested to work with me and undergo the process is most welcome. WE can arrange for online or virtual hands on proficiency exam, if interested. Just PM me.
Cheers,
Sensei
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23 years 8 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Dear All,
Project Controls Manager relatively a news position introduced on projects(in Asia, Middle East,UK and other part of the world).
Traditionally, we used to have a contracts department who is responsible for all the cost and contracts related issues and a planner/scheduler who supports scheduling functions supporting project manager projects.Cost and scheduling interface used to be managed by the project manager. Due this reason, still there is no proper fortfolio for the project controls manager in the industry.I have worked on major projects and seen project controls manager mostly involved in the scheduling management role rather than project controls.
Let us come to the basics, we all know what is project is; controls: To reduce or prevent the spread of,To adjust to a requirement; regulate etc.Project Controls Manager should be responsible for devising all the measures, implementing them monitoring them and controlling them, This is applicable for time, cost, quality and safety. Normally projects do have quality control and safety managers and these two item are left for them to handle which leaves cost and time to the PCM.Quantity surveying(including contracts) and scheduling departments should be part of Project Controls in order to be effective.
Regards
Dinesh Kumar
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18 years 9 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Oliver
I cant remember that we quoted on such project of that size, so the risk you mentioned doesnt fit. But I believe it is a good argument to reflect - thank you.
Regards
Dieter
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Dieter,
The whole point of the PMI BoK and the APM BoK is to make an internationally recognized lexicon for the project management industry.
If your company bid upon a project of less than 100k that my or rav’s company were tendering and we saw that you had included a PCM, then it it possible that our companies would not choose your bid for contract award because it may look like your over estimating the planning requirements.
This is a very simplistic example I know, but when do you work for say American clients (PMI) and you are a european company (APM), misconstrued information can cost money!
Regards,
Oliver
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18 years 9 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Hi Oliver, Raviraj
This is no religious war. I explained how PCM is defined in the company Im working for. My personal opinion doesn’t count. In other companies terms are used differently.
I really don’t understand why you don’t accept. We all are working in projects most of us for changing customers and so we are accustomed (or should be ..) to adapt to different environments, to live with different cultures, with different terms. No need to fight and to evaluate, but to define and to discuss.
By the way: If I would have to decide the terms, I would agree with Raviraj. I’ll try to modify the definition.
Regards to all
Dieter
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And that one person will mostly be a planner who has been assigned the work by a PCM/Planning Manager.
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18 years 9 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Hi Raviraj
I wrote "templates to be used as bricks". I didn’t write "using the traditional templates (bricks) alone". Projects are singular, it would be absolutely stupid to restrict a schedule to templates/bricks. It must be: bricks + individual. But there is no need for always reinvent wheels. This I meant by effectively working.
You use a different definition than we do. That’s ok.
Please show me an international law/regulation where this term is defined. There isn’t any. PMBoK: Nothing. Even in Germany where we have a industrial norm for everything, it isn’t defined. So we have to develop the term by ourselves, live with different definitions, and then discuss.
Not all projects have a size of some billions of Euros or Dollars, that you need a team for project controls. Normal project life is different. Mostly one person will be ok (+replacement).
Regards
Dieter
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18 years 5 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Dieter,
I agree with what Oliver and carmen have written.
the way u hav presented @ PCM, he sounds more like a Sr. Planner / Sr. Scheduler.
His main job shud b to get d right things done (not by self) by others. He shud communicate with other departments to provide / show them where as a project, v r standing.
He shud try to provide information which is more relevant to this specific project rather than using the traditional templates (bricks) alone.
The crux of the matter is; he shud:
- establish the standard APPROACH for the specific project to organise the various elements of the planning & project controls
- He shud FACILITATE the planner / scheduler for formation of comprehensive time-phased budget by thorough schedule planning and cost estimating.
- To control project activity flow by defining how work is formally authorised
- To GUIDE planning team for making performance reports and SUGGEST ways to control changes to the project baseline.
As far as project size is concerned, if the project size is bigger, then there will be PLANNING MANAGER ALONG WITH A PROJECT CONTROLS MANAGER.
:-)
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18 years 9 monthsRE: Project Controls Manager interview questions needed
Again, first its an item for definition second it depends on the size of project.If a project has a size that it requires more than one person for scheduling, he will more be team leader during project execution. We have some templates to be used as bricks, which makes life easier for the planner. As planning is easier in p5/P6 than in P3, this was another reason to switch.
A PCM who has a "complicated way of scheduling and reporting" would work for a different company. With an effective way of working he will have plenty of time to perfom the total scope of work.
Regards
Dieter
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