I have been asked to do Recovery schedule for the old schedule we submitted before 181 days and not started yet. So, to do new one do I need to update data date and change duration to keep same finish date? Please, give me some advises..
The topic is quiet interesting really, What i feel, Acceleartion means, to complete the job at any cost in time to meet the dateline. The question arises here is Who caused the delay? If the delay is caused by Client, Contractor will submit EOT Schedule, to avoid this kind of thing, the Client only can request the Contractor to accelerate the job. so i feel Acceleration Schedule is usually prepared at the request of clients, but ive no idea whether they will pay any extra money to the contractor!! in order to accelerate the job(anyhow it depends on the mutual agreement as per the project contract).
Also i feel Recovery Schedule is to recover from the loss of time. Again the question arises, who caused the loss of time? this time by the Contractor. so client will request contractor to prepare recovery schedule, therefore the contractor has to bring more resources(of-course based on the remaining bugetted man-hrs)to complete the job in time. Of course, I feel we cant claim anymoney in the recovery schedule due to contracors delay.
So i feel both the terms are used against the contractors by the client. Client only can say the contractor to Accelerate the job, Hence Acceleartion schedule is prepared due to Clients request(I feel most of the time this kind of schedule is prepared due to clients delay) and If the Contractor delays the job, Client will instruct the contractor to recover the loss of time, hence Contractor has to prepare and submit the recovery schedule.
I cant agree with you that the title of a Schedule represents the party responsible for the delay caused.
I have seen Acceleration Schedules imposed on Contractors by the Client/Employer simply because the Contractor himself was delayed by his own failures and unable to schedule the project properly.
I have also seen (and been involved in) Recovery Schedules put forward by Contractors when they have suffered from delays caused by the Client/Employer and where they do not want to delay the schedule and get hit (unfairly) for LDs. Such a Recovery Schedule represents Constructive Acceleration.
I was involved in a project in Brazil last year, where the Contractor prepared a "Hush Plan". It wasnt until a couple of weeks after my arrival in Brazil that I discovered that a number of Brazilians cannot pronounce the letter "R" and instead use the letter "H". Consequently, what I thought had been a very confidental schedule, was in fact a "Rush Plan" for recovery of the project. ;-)
To reply to the original question, I dont think that it matters as to what you call the Schedule, the main criteria for claiming extra time and money is down to your entitlement under the Contract and having an excusable delay.
Yeah, I agree with Steven. Acceleration programme is for when the client has caused a delay which the contractor is trying to recover for them, a recovery programme is when the contractor has caused the delay itself and is trying to recover. Acceleration will give cause for a financial claim, recovery wont.
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Submitted by Steven Oliver on Tue, 2004-07-06 05:47
Acceleration Schedule and or Recovery Schedule is somewhat related in context. When you say acceleration schedule you are in the process of completing the project earlier than the baseline by making , this could apply whether the project is delayed or not. For Recovery schedule the basic meaning itself suggest that we need to get back on track in relation with the baseline schedule, or in can be called accelerated schedule also cause you have to work on a shorter time period that the orginal to get back on track.
Whether recovery or accelarated schedule, there is always additional resources (money, materials,men & machines) involve for the program to take effect, cause Time is inversely proportional with cost.
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13 years 10 monthsDear All,I have been asked to
Dear All,
I have been asked to do Recovery schedule for the old schedule we submitted before 181 days and not started yet. So, to do new one do I need to update data date and change duration to keep same finish date? Please, give me some advises..
Thank you,
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16 years 9 monthsRE: Acceleration Schedule Vs Recovery Schedule
The topic is quiet interesting really, What i feel, Acceleartion means, to complete the job at any cost in time to meet the dateline. The question arises here is Who caused the delay? If the delay is caused by Client, Contractor will submit EOT Schedule, to avoid this kind of thing, the Client only can request the Contractor to accelerate the job. so i feel Acceleration Schedule is usually prepared at the request of clients, but ive no idea whether they will pay any extra money to the contractor!! in order to accelerate the job(anyhow it depends on the mutual agreement as per the project contract).
Also i feel Recovery Schedule is to recover from the loss of time. Again the question arises, who caused the loss of time? this time by the Contractor. so client will request contractor to prepare recovery schedule, therefore the contractor has to bring more resources(of-course based on the remaining bugetted man-hrs)to complete the job in time. Of course, I feel we cant claim anymoney in the recovery schedule due to contracors delay.
So i feel both the terms are used against the contractors by the client. Client only can say the contractor to Accelerate the job, Hence Acceleartion schedule is prepared due to Clients request(I feel most of the time this kind of schedule is prepared due to clients delay) and If the Contractor delays the job, Client will instruct the contractor to recover the loss of time, hence Contractor has to prepare and submit the recovery schedule.
Any more suggestions?............
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21 years 4 monthsRE: Acceleration Schedule Vs Recovery Schedule
Guys,
I cant agree with you that the title of a Schedule represents the party responsible for the delay caused.
I have seen Acceleration Schedules imposed on Contractors by the Client/Employer simply because the Contractor himself was delayed by his own failures and unable to schedule the project properly.
I have also seen (and been involved in) Recovery Schedules put forward by Contractors when they have suffered from delays caused by the Client/Employer and where they do not want to delay the schedule and get hit (unfairly) for LDs. Such a Recovery Schedule represents Constructive Acceleration.
I was involved in a project in Brazil last year, where the Contractor prepared a "Hush Plan". It wasnt until a couple of weeks after my arrival in Brazil that I discovered that a number of Brazilians cannot pronounce the letter "R" and instead use the letter "H". Consequently, what I thought had been a very confidental schedule, was in fact a "Rush Plan" for recovery of the project. ;-)
To reply to the original question, I dont think that it matters as to what you call the Schedule, the main criteria for claiming extra time and money is down to your entitlement under the Contract and having an excusable delay.
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22 years 4 monthsRE: Acceleration Schedule Vs Recovery Schedule
Yeah, I agree with Steven. Acceleration programme is for when the client has caused a delay which the contractor is trying to recover for them, a recovery programme is when the contractor has caused the delay itself and is trying to recover. Acceleration will give cause for a financial claim, recovery wont.
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23 yearsRE: Acceleration Schedule Vs Recovery Schedule
The very broad distinction, I would make is that
Acceleration schedule is at client cost to finish the project earlier, whilst a recovery schedule is at contractor cost to recover lost time.
Very broad and very dependant on the project and contract terms. HTH
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16 years 9 monthsRE: Acceleration Schedule Vs Recovery Schedule
Just a question on that last comment "Time is inversely proportional with cost."
IMHO I am not sure if it is entirely true in todays context !!
However it does open a room for inputs on this point from our learned forum members !
Any comments ?
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23 years 7 monthsRE: Acceleration Schedule Vs Recovery Schedule
Acceleration Schedule and or Recovery Schedule is somewhat related in context. When you say acceleration schedule you are in the process of completing the project earlier than the baseline by making , this could apply whether the project is delayed or not. For Recovery schedule the basic meaning itself suggest that we need to get back on track in relation with the baseline schedule, or in can be called accelerated schedule also cause you have to work on a shorter time period that the orginal to get back on track.
Whether recovery or accelarated schedule, there is always additional resources (money, materials,men & machines) involve for the program to take effect, cause Time is inversely proportional with cost.
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E. Montales