Thanks for the feedback and I appreciate what you say. However I am trying to do things which are really very simple in any other package and they dont work in P5. I have contacted primavera about this only to be told P5 does not do it. Which seems wrong to me as if it works on P3 and on simple packages like MS project then I struggle to understand why it doesnt work in P5.
A simple example is summarising bars from one level to another and getting the progress to display on the summary bars correctly. What it does for me is show all progress to be on schedule up to the data date when in fact the progres should be showing well behind the data date ie slipping. I contacted Primavera about this and they advise there is nothing that I can do about it. It just seems wrong to me.
This is a common respond from an experiened planner. I been rollout P5 and P6 in the past 3 years, and this is very common. Because we P3 planner is so use to the way we run our project, setup our plan, do reports, and have nice S-Curve layout setup.
At the same time, lots of P3 planner refuse to attend or pay attention to the training provided. As a result, went we try to do things that we wanted, the system cannot provide the exact apple to apple solution and methods.
But when I rollout to Project Manager who never did any planning, they are so impress with the result, and visibility given to them. This is all part of the change management process. And if you try to do it alone will be dreadful.
Seek assistant, attend training, look at all the benefits of the new system.
Soon you will convert.
Good Luck
Alex
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22 years 5 months
Member for22 years5 months
Submitted by Paul Hodgson on Tue, 2008-05-06 14:51
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21 years 2 monthsRE: Dreadful P5
Hi Gents
Thanks for the feedback and I appreciate what you say. However I am trying to do things which are really very simple in any other package and they dont work in P5. I have contacted primavera about this only to be told P5 does not do it. Which seems wrong to me as if it works on P3 and on simple packages like MS project then I struggle to understand why it doesnt work in P5.
A simple example is summarising bars from one level to another and getting the progress to display on the summary bars correctly. What it does for me is show all progress to be on schedule up to the data date when in fact the progres should be showing well behind the data date ie slipping. I contacted Primavera about this and they advise there is nothing that I can do about it. It just seems wrong to me.
Anyway gents thanks for the feedback.
Regards
George
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22 years 9 monthsRE: Dreadful P5
George
This is a common respond from an experiened planner. I been rollout P5 and P6 in the past 3 years, and this is very common. Because we P3 planner is so use to the way we run our project, setup our plan, do reports, and have nice S-Curve layout setup.
At the same time, lots of P3 planner refuse to attend or pay attention to the training provided. As a result, went we try to do things that we wanted, the system cannot provide the exact apple to apple solution and methods.
But when I rollout to Project Manager who never did any planning, they are so impress with the result, and visibility given to them. This is all part of the change management process. And if you try to do it alone will be dreadful.
Seek assistant, attend training, look at all the benefits of the new system.
Soon you will convert.
Good Luck
Alex
Member for
22 years 5 monthsRE: Dreadful P5
George
Dont despair.
I like you had the same thoughts 12 months ago, but Primavera Enterprise is a superior package and I certainly would not like to go back to P3.
I had the benefit of attending a P3 - P5 conversion course which helped the transition greatly.
Hang on in there.