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Scheduling Tools - Next Generation

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Fri, 2010-04-09 15:31
Samer Zawaydeh
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Dear PP,

I want to start this discussion about what is really important to see in the upcoming version of the Scheduling Softwares.

You can share your requirements, and maybe the sponsors and other tool makers can make your "wish list" come true.

Personally, I like to use simple tools that are clear, easy and which the other party can verify. More on the practical side and less of the black box buttons without verifiable results.

With kind regards,

Samer
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Mon, 2010-04-12 04:48
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Samer Zawaydeh
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Dear Rafael,

I think that we are moving towards a computer revolution similar to the industrial revolution hundreds of years ago.

Currently we are assembling data bases, and humans ask the questions and take the decisions. If you see what is happening at sites, humans have too much information, and can’t take enough decisions. If you have 400-500 emails in you inbox on a daily basis, in addition to meetings, decision to make, etc, etc, and the information is doubling every two years, I think that we will slowly develop models to take these decisions for repetitive tasks. Bill Gates wrote about this 15 years ago in his book. Maybe it will happen in 5-10 years from now.

Scheduling tool development should be next because it is long overdue. The theory is old and the tools needs educated specialists to be used and the results can’t be verified.

With kind regards,

Samer
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Sun, 2010-04-11 16:39
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Rafael Davila
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I believe this is a simple tool, though I prefer hand drawn sketches on tracing paper that take only minutes to a knowledgeable person, is better than delegating the model to someone who have no technical knowledge or experience. This is usually what happens with these kind of tools, they become tools only good for marketing purposes.

The following model consider resources, not bad.


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Sun, 2010-04-11 16:30
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Samer Zawaydeh
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Dear Rafael,

M&M is better.

A box building can be built with a supervisor only and without any design drawings as well.

The next Generation on the other hand is collaboration and technology. You put them together you have something called BIM, 4D and 5D.

Engineers sitting in boxes thinking what the project should look like is something in the past. The new approach is called Integrated Project Delivery. That is why I think that the Schedule will also become part of the Contract Documents.

With kind regards,

Samer
PS. I would send recommend that you send your client a letter saying that they can get tax benefits if they apply for GREEN Rating system. This way you can get rid of idiot ideas about the ice age and provide the client with a functional unit.
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Sun, 2010-04-11 16:18
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Rafael Davila
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Nice MM (mental masturbation), and I am here struggling with an architect that designed a mechanical closet at every classroom where the chilled water air handling unit does not fit and the water heater at the school kitchen is bigger than the mechanical room. He believes the next Ice Age is near and is requiring frost protection for the slab on ground on a tropical island. On top of this the storm water retention pond is below sea level on high tide and we have the sea at the other side of the street.

Suggest 6D for weather, hurricanes, tornadoes, thunderstorms, tsunamis etc.
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Sun, 2010-04-11 15:22
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Samer Zawaydeh
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Dear Shahul,

Many thanks for the link. Wounderful music as well.

My opinion is that this is going to be developed in the future and it will be part of the Design as well. If you have a Design Build Contract, I see no reason why the Client side should not prepare the Schedule with all required details as well. It is a matter of developing the practice. BIM is doing this and 4d is time, and 5D is cost.

With kind regards,

Samer
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Sun, 2010-04-11 12:11
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Shah. HB
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Hi Samer

Check this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WYKyCrK9tM
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