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Engineering Manhours relational to Procurement Manhours

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Fri, 2006-01-20 17:29
William Rosborough
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Hi folks,
Interested if anyone has any data/experience in the Oil/Gas industry pertaining to the relationship between Engineering manhours and Procurement manhours for a typcical EPC project.
thanks, Bill
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Mon, 2015-09-14 02:55
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Rafael Davila
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http://www.gulfpub.com/product.asp?PositionID=search&ProductID=19927&Cat...

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Sun, 2015-09-13 18:24
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Ritesh Parakkal
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Planning Manhours

Hi All ,

I dont see any reference to Planning Manhours / Productivity for different activities on the Planning Planet. Can anybody refer me to any Websites or links where i can refer to these for my Planning and Costing activities  for Oil & gas Projects like Plants , Refineries, Petrochemicals, Pipelines etc 

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Ritesh

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Sun, 2015-09-13 18:18
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Ritesh Parakkal
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What would be the Manhours required for Engineering of a Building ( Steel Structure + Sandwich Panel) of Size 49 Mts x 13 Mts X 4 Mts height . Engineering Manhours ?

 

Can i refer somewhere for this Information ?

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Ritesh Parakkal

riteshparakkal@gmail.com 

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Sun, 2015-09-13 18:18
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Ritesh Parakkal
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What would be the Manhours required for Engineering of a Building ( Steel Structure + Sandwich Panel) of Size 49 Mts x 13 Mts X 4 Mts height . Engineering Manhours ?

 

Can i refer somewhere for this Information ?

Regards

Ritesh Parakkal

riteshparakkal@gmail.com 

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Thu, 2012-04-26 20:14
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Jenny Ingco
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Dear All,

I am working on Oil and Gas schedule and this my 1st time working on Manhours issue I use to work on Nonlaboer scheduls. I just need to know how I can calculate the Manhour I mean what formate I should use? And I appricate if someone wann take a look on my schedule and can help me to know whats the wrong data I using?

Thank you,

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Thu, 2012-04-26 17:01
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Nicole Bryan
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hi,

i would appreciate if someone can help send me also the weighting know how ffor oil and gas, samples and data base on experience will be a great help. this is my email.. brynic717@yahoo.com.ph

thank u,

nicole

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Wed, 2012-04-25 14:57
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Jenny Ingco
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Dear All,

I am facing same issue with my schedule which my manager asked me to review it for our clint and make some nots but the issue I don't know exactly what I should check? If someone interased I can send you the schedule and let me know...

Thank you,

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Wed, 2012-04-25 14:57
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Jenny Ingco
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Dear All,

I am facing same issue with my schedule which my manager asked me to review it for our clint and make some nots but the issue I don't know exactly what I should check? If someone interased I can send you the schedule and let me know...

Thank you,

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Mon, 2011-10-10 10:13
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J Karthik Kumer
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Dear Mehdi Rashidi, sir,

 

 i also working in oil & gas (epc project), i also doubt have how to assign weight to engineering, procurement, construction, commissi etc... ,

kindly send me the data for my mail id : jk_jayaraman@yahoo.com

or otherwise i will be contact to your mail id sir,

even how to (what based on values assign this -manhour,cost)

i expect the your valuable replay 

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Sun, 2006-02-19 06:11
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Mehdi Rashidi Ala...
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Dear Ibrahim,
As you know, this weight depend on scope of project.
If you have any question about PM in Oil & Gas please contact with my email.

B/R
Mehdi
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Sun, 2006-02-19 04:41
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Norzul Ibrahim
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Dear Mehdi,

It’s interesting to notice such a big variation on the utilization/percentage of manhours especially for the construction i.e. 76% (my project) vs 45% (your project).

Perhaps it’s good if we could exchange information on this respect.

Thanks

norzul

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Sat, 2006-02-18 08:20
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Mehdi Rashidi Ala...
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Dear William,
I you want some information about know- how weighting oil& Gas Projects.please contact with me by email, mehdi.rashidi@engineer.com

Also, notice that my example is output from our project but for new calculation weights of project we need project scope of work.

Best Regards
Mehdi Rashidi
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Sat, 2006-02-18 07:47
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Norzul Ibrahim
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William,

The figure that I mentioned maybe applicable to our enviroments only. This may depend on kind of project, labor cost, type of contract, etc...

Thanks

norzul
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Thu, 2006-02-16 11:32
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William Rosborough
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Mehdi Rashidi Alangeh,
Certainly appreciate you reply and advice.
Regards, Bill
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Thu, 2006-02-16 07:43
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Mehdi Rashidi Ala...
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Engineering manhours = 25%
Procurement = 20%
Construction = 45%
Commissioning = 10%

You notice that this weights based on size & type & scopw of work of project.
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Wed, 2006-02-15 10:40
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William Rosborough
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Norzul,

Many thanks for this base information, exactly the feedback I was looking for.

regards, Bill
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Wed, 2006-02-15 05:56
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Norzul Ibrahim
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I’m currently involve in a project (EPCC Type Contract)
1) Total estimated plan manhours = 1.7 million manhours
2) Engineering manhours = 1.3% (based on actual the engr manhours has doubled or tripled...)
3) Procurement management manhours = 4.7%
4) Construction workforce/management manhours = 76.0%
5) Commissioning workforce/management manhours = 8.0%
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Tue, 2006-01-31 12:13
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William Rosborough
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Hatem,
Thanks for the interest, wondering if there is a relationship between the number of Engineering MHRs and the number of Procurement MHR’s documented anywhere based on an EPC project wherein Engineering and Procurement is done by the same organization.
thanks, Bill
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Tue, 2006-01-31 02:27
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Hatem Mahmoud
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Hi William,

I didn`t get what exactly you want, you ask about the relative weight between engineering MHR`s & procurement MHR`s? or about other thing?
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