Guild of Project Controls: Compendium | Roles | Assessment | Certifications | Membership

Tips on using this forum..

(1) Explain your problem, don't simply post "This isn't working". What were you doing when you faced the problem? What have you tried to resolve - did you look for a solution using "Search" ? Has it happened just once or several times?

(2) It's also good to get feedback when a solution is found, return to the original post to explain how it was resolved so that more people can also use the results.

Forecasting methods

10 replies [Last post]
Nitin Naik
User offline. Last seen 7 years 41 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 1 Feb 2005
Posts: 27
Groups: None
Dear All,

I am currently working on a engineering project which involves major roadworks. I have following queries. Your inputs are highly appreciated

a) Forecasting task using remaining duration approach in P3 version 3

b)Using S curve methodology to show the progress for design and procurement work. How to derive this curve?

c)Any tips on activities involved in construction of major structures such as overbridge, underpass etc.

d) Finally using S curve for the cash flow analysis

Please email me any related information at naik_nitin@hotmail.com

Replies

Zubaer Shariff
User offline. Last seen 2 years 34 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 17 Jan 2004
Posts: 12
Groups: None
Hi guys,
The best method to avoid calculations of activity weighing is to split activities to as much detail as possible. You will need a quantity surveyor to provide the breakdowns(for eg.):
1) Shuttering & steel fixing
2) Pouring concrete
This way you spend more time in creating schedule the first time, but you will get accurate project status, cash flows & resource loadings and earned values. This may increase no. of activites, but when you organise properly, any number of activities in P3 are no problem.
Dayanidhi Dhandapany
User offline. Last seen 3 years 3 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Posts: 470
Groups: None
Moosa, You can check with your QS dept for Valuation Break down for the project and based on the %age break down for major items you can use the weightage to distribute it to your activities based on their quantities, if you develop S-Curve based on cost/value then monitoring of overall progress would be easy.
Anand Kulkarni
User offline. Last seen 11 years 40 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 4 Apr 2005
Posts: 41
Groups: None
Moosa,

Activity weighing is agreed % complete against the completion of intermediate stages of the activity.

Like in RCC slab although you can assign the resources lag or the resources curve for consumption, their are steps to be achieved before that like shuttering, placing of reinforcement & than concreting.

So on completion of each phase you assign certain percentage complete i.e after completion of shuttering 20%,rein.50% & conc.100%

This is activity weighing. This is very useful for tracking

Same way you can use this for other activities like External lighting work etc. where you know, on completion of which phase what will be the overall % percentage complete.

Hope this is ok
Moosa Ali
User offline. Last seen 16 years 6 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 17
Groups: None
Thanx for your replies Anand and Dayanidhi Dhandapany.
But pls. explain how the activity weighing can be done?
Thanx
Moosa Ali
Anand Kulkarni
User offline. Last seen 11 years 40 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 4 Apr 2005
Posts: 41
Groups: None
Moosa,

Otherwise activity weighing can also help.

cheers!
Dayanidhi Dhandapany
User offline. Last seen 3 years 3 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Posts: 470
Groups: None
Moosa, use resource lag to begin the distribution period for the concrete quantity to required duration.
Moosa Ali
User offline. Last seen 16 years 6 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 17
Groups: None
Hi Anand
I got the reports. It is very much useful. Thanx
I have another doubt.
For e.g. If we consider concrete quantity of one activity F.F.Column : its duration is 12 days. Means this duration includes shuttering, steel fixing, concreting etc.
Concreting duration will be only one day.
My question is to forecast the quantity of concrete using; we want to split the activity F.F. column into column shuttering, column steel fixing, column concreting? Otherwise will we get the quantity of concrete of the concreting date?
If we didn’t split this activity the concrete quantity will be divided into its full duration i.e. 12 days. Right? Is there any method to get the concrete quantity without splitting that activity?
Thanking you
Moosa Ali
Moosa Ali
User offline. Last seen 16 years 6 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 17
Groups: None
Hi Ananad,
Pls email me too the files which explains further about the forecasting and S curve kskmampad@hotmail.com
Moosa Ali
Nitin Naik
User offline. Last seen 7 years 41 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 1 Feb 2005
Posts: 27
Groups: None
Hi Anand,

Thanks for the reply. If you can email me the files which explains further about the forecasting and S curve, it will be really useful.

thanks for your help once again

Nitin
Anand Kulkarni
User offline. Last seen 11 years 40 weeks ago. Offline
Joined: 4 Apr 2005
Posts: 41
Groups: None
Hi Nitin,

a) For forecasting by remaining duration, in schedule report for look-ahead in selection select remaining duration instead of early dates.

b) S curve is generally prepared on the resources consumed per period & cash flow is derived from the same.

If you want will send the files for the same.